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JCLW   01-23-2001 at 08:17:47 PM

Just for comparison:

www.dell.ca:
PIII-866 (133MHz)
HS & Fan
128MB PC133
20GB 7200RPM
17" Dell E770
32MB DDR Radeon
48x CD-ROM
3.5" Floppy
SBLive Value
3Com TXM 10/100
WinME
Quietkey k/b
MS Intellimouse
3yr warranty - 1yr next business day on site
* Free MS Works suite 2001
* Free MS Money 2001
* Free Intuit Quicktax
* Free Lexmark Z32
* Free Logitech Quickcam
SubTotal: CDN$1759.00

www.pccanada.com
PIII-866EB
FOP-32 HS & Fan
Asus CUSL2-C
128MB PC133
20GB Quantum 7200RPM
17" Viewsonic EF70
32MB DDR Radeon
52x CD-ROM
3.5" Panasonic Floppy
SBLive Value
3Com TXM 10/100
WinME
Keytronic k/b
MS Intellimouse
Enlight mid tower case
Enermax power supply
SubTotal: CDN$2094.84

Looks like Dell has some pretty good deals now.
- JW

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rcf84   01-23-2001 at 08:45:47 PM
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Building your own teach you more about pc's get the pc canada system over DELL.

Cel 533 - 256mb sdram
15gb HD - ati radeon 32mb ddr (200/200)
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Anonymous   01-23-2001 at 09:21:51 PM
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Also, when building your own, you get to choose which compromises you make with your components - you are not tied-in to specific gfx cards, HDs, etc., and are likely to get better prices than when deviating from a manufacturer's standard spec. [If you're building a PC without compromise, you'll be spending about 10,000 dollars <font color=red>:O)</font color=red>]

Good luck, whatever you decide


<font color=blue> Mootin </font color=blue>

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Anonymous   01-23-2001 at 10:01:42 PM
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Dell has announced that they will have a reduced profit for the 1/4, next thing they are doing deals, suprise, suprise, or am I just being cynical?

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JCLW   01-23-2001 at 10:20:04 PM
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I've built more systems then I have fingers and toes but that wasn't really the point... you've got to admit that Dell has some pretty good deals.

- JW

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Kodiak   01-23-2001 at 10:24:08 PM
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I think his point was that DELL's are dirt cheap these days, and as far as that goes he's absolutely right... they have some unbelieveable prices up here in Canada (don't know about USA)... even their P4 systems seem to be cheaper than many Athlons... yes you can argue, yes you may hate despise dislike Dell, however, the price tags are there, sorry:(

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JCLW   01-23-2001 at 10:26:17 PM
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Exactly - thanks Kodiak

Interesting that you mentioned the P4 so I priced that out as well:

www.dell.ca
Base System: Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor at 1.3GHz
Memory: 128MB PC800 RDRAM (2X64MB)
Hard Drive: 20GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
Monitor: Dell Trinitron P780 17" Monitor 16.00" vis
CD-ROM: 48X CD-ROM
Video: 32MB DDR ATI Radeon Graphics Card
Floppy Drive: Floppy Drive
Sound Card: SB LIVE! 512v Value Digital
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® Millennium (English)
Keyboard: Quietkey Keyboard - Midnight Grey
Mouse: Microsoft Intellimouse - Midnight Grey
Productivity Software: Microsoft Works Suite 2001 with Money 2001
Warranty: 3Yr Limited Warranty; Yr 1 Next Bus. Day On-Site
NIC: Integrated 3COM 10/100 Ethernet Controller
Free Intuit Quicktax Software
Free Z32 Lexmark Printer (Part #292779)
Free Logitech Quickcam (Part #1619914)
subtotal: CDN$2449.00

www.pccanada.com
AMD Athlon (K7) 1.2-GHz 256k CPU OEM 449.99
Global Win FOP-38 Socket A Heat Sink & Fan 49.99
128 MB - 168 Pin (SDRAM) w/ SPD Eprom @ PC/133Mhz 74.99
Asus A7V - Socket A ATX Motherboard 214.99
20 GB Quantum 7200RPM Hard Drive OEM 179.99
Creative Fifty-Two Speed (52X) CD-ROM OEM 59.99
SoundBlaster Live Value II Soundcard OEM 69.99
ATI Radeon AGP 32Mb DDR Video Card (OEM) 274.99
Viewsonic PF775 Monitor 484.99
Enlight Mid Tower ATX Case w/ 7 Drive Bays w/o P.S 59.99
Enermax 330/350W ATX Power Supply 74.99
3COM 10/100Mb PCI Network Card OEM 69.99
Keytronic 104 Keyboard 29.99
Microsoft IntelliMouse PS/2 w/ Wheel (Retail) 39.99
1.44Mb Panasonic Floppy Disk Drive OEM 19.99
MS Windows ME OEM (w/ Motherboard Purchase) 149.99
subtotal: CDN$2379.83

Also note that the above Athlon system with an 850MHz chip and Viewsonic EF70 monitor would be the same price (+/- $50) as the PIII-866EB system I orginally priced out from PcCanada.

- JW

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Grizely1   01-23-2001 at 11:18:51 PM
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I have built A LOT of PCs too......

But for one thing, if you were to price out the two systems and make them have the EXACT SAME parts, the build-your-own-PC would be cheaper. You have priced out a motherboard that's twice as good, a heatsink that's way better, also better monitor, hard drive, CD-ROM, and Memory. So that doesn't really compare.....

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JCLW   01-23-2001 at 11:39:06 PM
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I tried to make them as close as I could. The Dells have better monitors, esp the P4 system with the Trinitron tube. My friends new Dell system has an IBM hard drive in it which is at least as good as the Quantum that is listed. 52x CD-ROM instead of 48x... big deal. What makes the Asus motherboards twice as good? If they work they work. There might be a 1% FPS difference in 3D games but again... big deal. Again with heatsinks I only care that #1:they keep the processor cool, and #2:they are quiet (which the FOP-3x fans are not so I'd say Dell has the better fans). I bet in terms of performance they are pretty close to one another. And the 3 year warranty from Dell is hard to beat.

- JW

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JCLW   01-23-2001 at 11:59:10 PM
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Now I sound like I'm defending Dell, my point was only that their systems are similarly priced to homebuilt systems.

- JW

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Grizely1   01-24-2001 at 12:45:42 AM
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I was not talking about performance differences. I was talking about PRICE DIFFERENCES. The CUSL2-C motherboard costs MUCH more than the crappy motherboard that the dell system uses.

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lakedude   01-24-2001 at 12:55:42 AM
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I just bought a Dell P4 with no monitor and no modem for around $1200.00 (all prices usd). I'm impressed because everything is first rate stuff. All parts are good brand name parts. The problem is that you do not get to choose which parts. The mobo is good but does not allow for overclocking. A decent video card was available but not the one I wanted. I don't know if the mobo allow much in the way of CPU upgade. If you buy your own you will know these things. I think overall the system was a good deal but if you want to oc or learn alot building one is the way to go. A lot depends on if you want what Dell is selling. If they are selling what you want there is no shame in buying prebuilt.

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Crashman   01-24-2001 at 12:56:32 AM
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Yes, but if someone wanted to they could get the CUSL2-C motherobard for their new Dell and install it themselves for less than it would cost them to build it by his prices. Plus the Dell includes $200 in software ($100 if you buy OEM software on the sly) and $200 in toys ($100 for pricewatch shoppers). I don't know about those prices though, I spent a lot less on my system.

Suicide is painless...........

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Les   01-25-2001 at 08:27:40 AM
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I'm looking to build my own system. Anyone have recommendations for case/power-supply sources. My local dealers have junk.

Les

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Grizely1   01-25-2001 at 10:07:26 PM
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Get an Antec case.

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Anonymous   01-25-2001 at 10:15:49 PM
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Are you guys including the cost of shipping with mail order computers. I tried to get a friend of mine a micron for under a grand. I found a duron for about $950, then I found out that shipping and tax was $125, now that just sux.

pill128

Take your pill, and get some sleep.

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