Hey, I wanna build a computer

[yesdiseases]

Hi, i'm looking to build a complete (everything!) nForce2 based computer for less than $510 US w/o shipping. It must have a dvd player and a cd burner. Thanks for your help.

 

[the_Prisoner]

Does that include a monitor?

I'm not a number, I'm a free man!

 

[yesdiseases]

No monitor included in the 510 US Dollar

 

[the_Prisoner]

The short answer is, yes you can build a computer for $510.00. A question is what do you want to do with it and how big of a monitor do you want?

I would suggest you to <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com" target="_new">http://www.newegg.com</A>( or other hardware site) and start checking prices. That will give you good idea on what you can and can not afford.

the Prisoner

I'm not a number, I'm a free man!

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

Wanna give some more deails ????

I can build u an nForce 2 based system with a Duron 600.......So please....tell us what u want the thing to do......

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

 

[yesdiseases]

I wanna play music, surf the internet, play a couple games like warcraft3. I just want as much as I can get for $510 dollars. I don't think a Duron 600 would be a good choice if I wanna get as much as possible, right?

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

I Agree....but ur first post liek i said..never mentioned what u wanted the system to do......

Now u wanna play games and surf the net etc........
Ill get back to u afetr i find out what i can cook up for $510 US

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

 

[ad_rach]

it can be done but you are best going for a low rated athlon xp (e.g. 1700- should ideally be t'bred) and then most importantly concentrating your budget into your memory.

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :]

 

[the_Prisoner]

No, a Duron 600 will not suffice. When playing music do you mean just playing music off the cd player or MP3 etc. Will you be downloading MP3s off the NET, better get broadband then. What performance do you expect?

Like Metal said give us some details on what you want. Also, like I said start checking the hardware sites for prices. It is a great place to learn about components of a computer.

Have fun!

the Prisoner

I'm not a number, I'm a free man!

 

[yesdiseases]

Hey I was newegging and I came up with the following:

FOXCONN SUPER CASE MID TOWER CASE TU-131 ***350W AMD Recommended Power Supply up to XP 2100+ ***
***INTEL Approved Chassis*** Dimension (DxWxH) 18.4 x 8.2 x 17.15 Inches Drive Bays 4 + 2 + 3 Motherboard Micro ATX, ATX up to 10.5X12.5 Inches Expansion Slots 7 Full Size Switching Power Supply ATX12V 350W AMD Listed to 2100+ Cooling Fans: Front 2 80mm (Optional) Rear One 80mm Included (can be replaced w/ a 90mm fan) USB Ports Front Two Description Ideal for P3/P4, AMD systems *Extended chassis -- deeper & taller *ATX12V 350W power supply *Excellent thermal performance *Total of 9 bays *Two front USB ports
more info-> N82E16811154002
$38.00
$38.00


Epox Motherboard for AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# EP-8RDA+
Specifications:
CPU Supported: AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron processors
Chipset: nForce2
FSB: 333MHz Max
RAM: 3x DDR SDRAM PC3200, 3GB Max
IDE: 2x E/IDE Ultra DMA/133
Slots: 1x AGP(8X), 6x PCI(32-bit)
Ports: 2x PS/2 Mouse/Keyboard, 2x Serial, 1x Parallel, 2x USB, 1x RJ-45
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650E 6-channel audio
Onboard LAN: Realtek RTL8201 PHY more info-> N82E16813123191
$128.00
$128.00


ATI OEM RADEON 7000 64MB DDR AGP TV OUT BULK
Specifications:
Sapphire Technology RADEON
Powered by ATI, Manufactured by Saphire
Graphics Controller: RADEON 7000 graphics processing unit (GPU)183/183
Memory Configuration: 64MB DDR, 64-bit memory
Maximium memory Interface :3.2GB/s with 200MHZ
Connector - 15-pin VGA connector
S-Video/composite connector
3D Acceleration Features
HYPERZ technology
PIXEL TAPESTRY architecture
VIDEO IMMERSION technology
Twin Cache Architecture
Operating Systems Support Windows 98SE, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows XP
32-bit 2D resolutions up to 2048x1536 Powered by ATI, Manufactured by Sapphire more info-> N82E16814102231
$40.00
$40.00


AMD Athlon XP 1700+ Thoroughbred /266 FSB Processor CPU 1700+/ 1.47GHz -OEM, AXDA1700DLT3C The Ultimate Digital Media Experience in an x86 Platform.Tailored for Microsoft® Windows® XP. Featuring QuantiSpeed Architecture for Rapid Execution of Applications. Tomorrow’s Technology Today.The Power of a Reliable Partner.
Specifications:
CPU: 1.47 GHz
Type: 1700 XP
Cache: 256K
BUS: 266MHz
Micron: .13
Socket A (PGA)
OEM - CPU Only more info-> N82E16819103351
$57.00
$57.00


KINGSTON KVR333X64C25/256 256MB 32x64 PC2700 DDR RAM (better than 2100 2400)
6 Layers High Quality Board; CL 2.5; 184-Pin Unbuffered. Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty through Manufacturer more info-> N82E16820141302
$70.00
$140.00


►Hot Item! IBM 40GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Model # IC35L040AVVN07-0, Part # 07N8450 - 120GXP OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Size: 40 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Seek time: 8.5ms
RPM:7200
Data Transfer: 40MB/sec
Cache 2MB
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$75.00
$75.00


TOSHIBA CD-RW/DVD-ROM -COMBO, MODEL# SD-R1202 - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Speed: 16X Record CD-R 10X Rewrite CD-RW 12X DVD and 40X CD-Read
Average Access time: 120ms DVD read 105ms
Data Transfer Rate Sustained: Max 16,200KB/s(DVD-ROM - 12X), Max 6,000KB/s (CD-ROM - 40X),
Buffer: 2MB
MTBF: 100,000 POH's
Horizontal or Vertical mount
OEM Drive only (No software or cables) more info-> N82E16827128105
$74.00
$74.00


Arctic Silver's NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 3. 3-gram( 1 cc. ) tube. Artic Silver more info-> N82E16835100003
$6.00
$6.00


Cooler Master CPU FAN CP5-6J11C-01 For AMD/Intel Cpu's Retail Intel: PIII (FC-PGA2) PIII Cumine up to 1.1 GHz PIII Tualatin up to 1.6 GHz Celeron up to 1.6 GHz AMD: Athlon up to 1.4 GHz, XP (Palomino) up to 2200 GHz (FC - PGA) Specifications:
Dimenstions L80 x W60 x H44.5 (mm)
FAN Dimensions 60 x 60 x 10 (mm)
Rated Voltage 12 VDC
Rated Speed 4800 R.P.M.
Air Flow 23.3 CFM
Noise Level 33.5±2 dB(A) more info-> N82E16835103405
$7.00
$7.00

For a total of 565 dollars. Anyway to cut it down a bit? Thanks for your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Spitfire_x86]

Wait for nForce2 IGP boards

Let us know <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=25703#25703" target="_new"> What File compression format you use? </A>

 

[yesdiseases]

I plan on ordering the parts on December 32rd, and I absolutely need the computer done by january 1st. I have heard that there are some IGP boards floating around right now, but I haven't seen them anywhere. Anyways, does the 8rda have a locked pCI divider?

Any other ideas on how to cut the cost a bit?

 

[the_Prisoner]

I hate cheapo PSUs and cases.


Is that 512MB of memory? I guess you can save money by getting 256MB, then upgrading later on.

Just curious, why 510.00 limit? Christmas money? hehe

Do you have an old computer you can use parts from?

Have fun,
the Prisoner

I'm not a number, I'm a free man!

 

[Spitfire_x86]

This is not clear that Epox 8RDA+ has PCI 1/6 divider or not. Go for ASUS A7N8X (non-Deluxe). Costs $135

Get a Maxtor D740X HDD. Much more reliable than the IBM one.

Buy a LiteOn 16x DVD-ROM for $45 now. When you have more $57, you can get a 48x/24x/48x LiteOn CD-RW. Don't bother with this Toshiba crap.

Let us know <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=25703#25703" target="_new"> What File compression format you use? </A>

 

[slickstaa]

I would personally put a bit more than a radeon 7000 in it, but that's just me. If you really want to save money you could go for something non nforce2 based. However, you lose the benefits of the best chipset for AMD out right now.(IMO)

<font color=blue> If it ain't broke, don't fix it...tweak it.</font color=blue>

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

Ive determined it is not possible to build a complete system EXCLUDING the monitor for only $510 US that is of Quality of some sort......i got to $480 US without getting Floppy or a case or PSU yet....so.....im sorry but ur gonan need a little more money......than again iw as goign for quality parts.....like a BBA Radeon 9500.......2x 256MB PC-2700 CL2 DDR and Surprisngly a T-Bred 1700+ and the non-delux Asus A7N8X.....80GB WD Special Edition HDD......that stuff aloen will cost over $500 with tax.....

so i dunno what to say......

Ur gonan have to go el-cheapo.........like GF4 MX 440 or Saphire ATI Radeon 9000 card etc. and 2x 128MB DDR and a Palomino 1700+ and a slower HDD.....ur budget is tite.....so i recomend u either blow it all on quality stuff and wait till u get more $$$ to finish building the system or wait till u get more $$$......

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

 

[yesdiseases]

Is this quality (I really don't care too much about the video card - most of the games i play are really low level). I just wannna watch movies, listen to music, surf internet, do some writing, check email, etc.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hey I was newegging and I came up with the following:

FOXCONN SUPER CASE MID TOWER CASE TU-131 ***350W AMD Recommended Power Supply up to XP 2100+ ***
***INTEL Approved Chassis*** Dimension (DxWxH) 18.4 x 8.2 x 17.15 Inches Drive Bays 4 + 2 + 3 Motherboard Micro ATX, ATX up to 10.5X12.5 Inches Expansion Slots 7 Full Size Switching Power Supply ATX12V 350W AMD Listed to 2100+ Cooling Fans: Front 2 80mm (Optional) Rear One 80mm Included (can be replaced w/ a 90mm fan) USB Ports Front Two Description Ideal for P3/P4, AMD systems *Extended chassis -- deeper & taller *ATX12V 350W power supply *Excellent thermal performance *Total of 9 bays *Two front USB ports
more info-> N82E16811154002
$38.00
$38.00


Epox Motherboard for AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# EP-8RDA+
Specifications:
CPU Supported: AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron processors
Chipset: nForce2
FSB: 333MHz Max
RAM: 3x DDR SDRAM PC3200, 3GB Max
IDE: 2x E/IDE Ultra DMA/133
Slots: 1x AGP(8X), 6x PCI(32-bit)
Ports: 2x PS/2 Mouse/Keyboard, 2x Serial, 1x Parallel, 2x USB, 1x RJ-45
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650E 6-channel audio
Onboard LAN: Realtek RTL8201 PHY more info-> N82E16813123191
$128.00
$128.00


ATI OEM RADEON 7000 64MB DDR AGP TV OUT BULK
Specifications:
Sapphire Technology RADEON
Powered by ATI, Manufactured by Saphire
Graphics Controller: RADEON 7000 graphics processing unit (GPU)183/183
Memory Configuration: 64MB DDR, 64-bit memory
Maximium memory Interface :3.2GB/s with 200MHZ
Connector - 15-pin VGA connector
S-Video/composite connector
3D Acceleration Features
HYPERZ technology
PIXEL TAPESTRY architecture
VIDEO IMMERSION technology
Twin Cache Architecture
Operating Systems Support Windows 98SE, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows XP
32-bit 2D resolutions up to 2048x1536 Powered by ATI, Manufactured by Sapphire more info-> N82E16814102231
$40.00
$40.00


AMD Athlon XP 1700+ Thoroughbred /266 FSB Processor CPU 1700+/ 1.47GHz -OEM, AXDA1700DLT3C The Ultimate Digital Media Experience in an x86 Platform.Tailored for Microsoft® Windows® XP. Featuring QuantiSpeed Architecture for Rapid Execution of Applications. Tomorrow’s Technology Today.The Power of a Reliable Partner.
Specifications:
CPU: 1.47 GHz
Type: 1700 XP
Cache: 256K
BUS: 266MHz
Micron: .13
Socket A (PGA)
OEM - CPU Only more info-> N82E16819103351
$57.00
$57.00


KINGSTON KVR333X64C25/256 256MB 32x64 PC2700 DDR RAM (better than 2100 2400)
6 Layers High Quality Board; CL 2.5; 184-Pin Unbuffered. Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty through Manufacturer more info-> N82E16820141302
$70.00
$140.00


►Hot Item! IBM 40GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Model # IC35L040AVVN07-0, Part # 07N8450 - 120GXP OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Size: 40 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Seek time: 8.5ms
RPM:7200
Data Transfer: 40MB/sec
Cache 2MB
OEM(Drive alone) 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty--* Works With PC & Mac *-- more info-> N82E16822145018
$75.00
$75.00


TOSHIBA CD-RW/DVD-ROM -COMBO, MODEL# SD-R1202 - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Speed: 16X Record CD-R 10X Rewrite CD-RW 12X DVD and 40X CD-Read
Average Access time: 120ms DVD read 105ms
Data Transfer Rate Sustained: Max 16,200KB/s(DVD-ROM - 12X), Max 6,000KB/s (CD-ROM - 40X),
Buffer: 2MB
MTBF: 100,000 POH's
Horizontal or Vertical mount
OEM Drive only (No software or cables) more info-> N82E16827128105
$74.00
$74.00


Arctic Silver's NEW Premium Silver Polysynthetic Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 3. 3-gram( 1 cc. ) tube. Artic Silver more info-> N82E16835100003
$6.00
$6.00


Cooler Master CPU FAN CP5-6J11C-01 For AMD/Intel Cpu's Retail Intel: PIII (FC-PGA2) PIII Cumine up to 1.1 GHz PIII Tualatin up to 1.6 GHz Celeron up to 1.6 GHz AMD: Athlon up to 1.4 GHz, XP (Palomino) up to 2200 GHz (FC - PGA) Specifications:
Dimenstions L80 x W60 x H44.5 (mm)
FAN Dimensions 60 x 60 x 10 (mm)
Rated Voltage 12 VDC
Rated Speed 4800 R.P.M.
Air Flow 23.3 CFM
Noise Level 33.5±2 dB(A) more info-> N82E16835103405
$7.00
$7.00

Total 565 Dollah. I might try to cut it down but using an old cd burner and replacing the combo drive with a liteon 16x dvd. whadya thinkk?

 

[the_Prisoner]

I agree with Metal. I would have a hard time making a quality computer for 510.00.

Watching movies, from what source? You can from the DVD, but what about regular TV?
Listen to music, no problem from the cd-rom player.
Surfing the net, no problem with a inexpensive setup.
Using the old CD burner is a good idea, get the DVD liteon.
If you want watch TV on your system, get a video card with that option or a cheap TV Tuner card.

What games do you want to play? Probably the most important question due to the fact it will take most of the horsepower.

For the price upgrade ability will be very important!

the Prisoner


I'm not a number, I'm a free man!

 

[yesdiseases]

I play UT (NOT 2003), NOLF2, NHL2003, rollercoaster tycoon, watch dvds, not tv

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

And the system HAS to be nForce 2 Based ?? hmmmm

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

Sorry dude, yet again ive tried to through the cheapest stuff with quality yet with a good price together and i can put everything but a sound card...Lan....Modem....Video Card...Floppy....and its about $600 before tax...so theres no way ur gonan get a nForce 2 based WHOLE system for $510 US........no way.....not unless u get an IGP nForce 2 board and screw buying any accesories.......

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

Ok well I found something.......keep in mind this is BEFORE Tax......I dont know what the tax percentage is in the states or whatever.....but here....

ASUS A7N8X Deluxe Motherboard....................$152.00
Kingmax PC-2700 256MB DDR Ram....................$65.00
AMD Athlon XP 1700+ T-Bred CPU...................$57.00
Lite-On 16X DVD Rom..............................$42.00
ATI Radeon 9000 Atlantis 64MB OEM................$66.00
Sony 1.44MB Floppy Drive.........................$8.00
IBM 40GB 120GXP 7200rpm HDD......................$75.00
MAXTOP CSX-3688Kl Case w/350W AMD/P4 Ready PSU...$39.00

TOTAL = .........................................$504.00

This system will easily play DVD's...surf the net.....Do your word processing or spreadsheets whatever.......Play some games....(The ones you mentioned anyways, it will play with ease) and you can even OC it later on......as it is a T-Bred Athlon XP.....I think however the CPU is OEM so it comes with no HSF...so add another $15.00 to the total for a TT Volcano 7......there you go....ALSO keep in mind you would be running this nForce 2 board in Single Memory operation mode......so u will NOT utilize the full potential of the nForce 2.....however it will still do more the enough for what ur gonan need the computer for.......another thing you might want to do is add a couple Case fans.....there cheap....but ur $510 budget REALLY sux major ass......but this is the best I could come up with....hope it helps.........

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

 

[the_Prisoner]

He wants a CD burner too.

I'm not a number, I'm a free man!

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

<i>

I just wannna watch movies, listen to music, surf internet, do some <b>writing</b>, check email, etc.

</i>

Where does it say he wants a Burner ??? Ive read all his posts no where does it say he wants a CD Burner.....nor does it say anywhere he wants a monitor.......

As far as the writting goes.....im sure that he meant Typing like in MS Word......otherwise he would have said somethign different...cuz using the word "writing" in the context as he would liek to "Burn Cd's" is totaly wrong.....but hey maybe im wrong?? Even still To Bad......i dont nkow why u even bothered to tell me that He wants a burner...tough [-peep-].....hes ona small budget....and if u can come up with something better.....fine.....until than......theres nothing that can be done about it...i tryed the best i could....

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

 

[paulj]

None of the systems quoted here have been complete. All leave out a modem (maybe you don't need that), a OS (maybe you don't need that either?), speakers, keyboard, mouse, and monitor (I see you aren't concerned about the monitor). I didn't include speakers, a keyboard or a mouse in my quote either. An optical mouse and keyboard can be had for about $28. You can go cheaper for a basic mouse/keyboard set. But the question begins to grow in the back of my head, "Why?!?!?".

I would recommend you look for ways to raise your funds so that you can buy some quality RAM (CL2), a good PS (Enermax or Antec), and a good video card w/ 128MB. Everybody has something they can sell or do to raise a little bit of quick cash. For $20 more you can upgrade my quote to a 8500LE w/ 128MB or a 9000Pro w/ 128MB. Everyone here has done a lot to try to get a good system for $510, but it's just not possible. MeTaLrOcKeR has the best system for the price you asked for so far. But even he had to make some sacrifices to get to $510. I am sure the RAM in his system is CL2.5 at best. That's like downgrading your CPU by one model. If you have to do it go ahead. But one of the best things about building a computer is using the best stuff (not necessarily the most expensive stuff).

Seriously see if you can do something (legal) that will put another $200 - $300 in your pocket, you will be happier long run.

For what it's worth here is my quote. Remember it has a modem and Windows XP Home, but no speakers, keyboard, mouse, or monitor.

A08598

CORSAIR CMX256A-2700C2 32X64 333MHZ 256MB CAS2 DDR DIMM W/HEAT SPREADER
$94.34
$94.34


A14403

ANTEC SLK3700AMB MID TOWER W/SLK350 350W (PENTIUM 4 READY) ATX POWER SUPPLY Detail Specs
$72.00
$72.00


A16705

ENERMAX FAN012-FAB-B 120mm BALL BEARING FAN FOR CASE W/3 & 4PIN CONNECTOR Detail Specs
$15.00
$15.00


A00695

SONY 1.44MB FLOPPY DRIVE (Bare Drive) Detail Specs
$11.90
$11.90


A19041

ASUS A7N8X DLX NVIDIA nFORCE2 CHIPSET ULTRA ATA133 ATX FORM FACTOR 1xAGP(PRO)/5xPCI/3xDDR W/SATA, DUAL LAN, 1394, USB 2.0 & AUDIO Detail Specs (CPU TYPE:AMD DURON, ATHLON)
$145.12
$145.12


A03454

AMD ATHLON XP 1700+ 1.47GHZ (AXDA1700BOX) RETAIL BOXEDW/COOLING FAN (3 YEARS WARRANTY)   |  Important Installation Info
$59.00
$59.00


A18950

ATI RADEON 8500LE 64MB AGP DDR 3D/DVD 2X/4X DVI INPUT 225MHZ W/TV OUT,Without/DVI ADAPTER (White box) Detail Specs
$79.00
$79.00


A18530

MAXTOR 30.0GB DX6E030L0 EIDE ULTRA-ATA1338.5MS 7200RPM2MB BUFFER (Bare drive)
$68.00
$68.00


A13780

LITE ON 16X-DVD/48X-CDROM INTERNAL EIDE #LTD-163 (Retail) Detail Specs*Limit 5 pcs per customer.
$39.50
$39.50


568031

USR 56K V.92 PCI INTERNAL FAX MODEM (#USR5699B) Detail Specs
$34.75
$34.75


A15060

Microsoft Windows XP HOME (OEM/DSP)*Must be Purchased w/Hardware!!*Detail Specs
$89.00
$89.00




Sub Total
$707.61

<font color=red>The solution may be obvious, but I can't see it for the smoke coming off my processor.</font color=red>