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August 18, 2009 4:50:12 PM

Ok, so i've burned the .iso to a disk so i can run windows 7 in my new build at first post, but what other downloads should i get? Dunno what updates there are for windows 7, should i dl the updates now and burn them on the disk, or dl them once i run windows 7 on my new build. (links to updates would be great ;])

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August 18, 2009 5:37:57 PM

I wouldn't worry too much about updates, but if you don't have another PC then make sure you have drivers for your network card (if Windows doesn't support it out of the box).
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August 18, 2009 5:53:07 PM

what do you mean drivers for my network card? The laptop im using right now to talk is my step dads, im building my own in like a week.
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August 18, 2009 9:42:08 PM

I wouldn't worry about it, seeing you are building new, all the hardware you get now that need drivers, will be supplied with Vista drivers which will work with Windows 7 if they are needed.
When you install Windows 7 chances are it will install all the required drivers for basic hardware, like m/board video and network card.
Some may need to be updated either by W7 or manually.
Any additional hardware such as tv tuners, cameras etc; may need to have the makers drivers installed depending on make and model, others may be detected and installed by W7.
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August 18, 2009 10:58:36 PM

computernewbie said:
Dunno what updates there are for windows 7, should i dl the updates now and burn them on the disk, or dl them once i run windows 7 on my new build.
I don't know of any site where you can download items such as security patches etc. Once you install Windows 7 it will download and install patches automatically as long has you have Windows Update turned on. There are a couple of dozen patches that I've already seen applied to my Win7 system.
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August 18, 2009 11:32:57 PM

The video driver that installed with Windows 7 was waaay slooow. I'm not my PC that has Windows7 right now so I cant tell you what driver I am using.

Post what MB and what Video Card you are going to be using. Somebody might have the answer for you right away.
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August 19, 2009 1:20:13 AM

Asus P6T Deluxe V2, and im not gonna buy a video card ATM since im low on funds D:, gonna go with the ati 5000's i guess when they come out.

Oh, i heard there was a update for win7 not for public, it was 7600, it was only for people who have shares with microsoft or something
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August 19, 2009 2:11:18 AM

computernewbie said:
Oh, i heard there was a update for win7 not for public, it was 7600, it was only for people who have shares with microsoft or something
That's the final release version that goes on sale October 22. It's been shipped to manufacturers like HP and Dell so they can start integrating it into their production process, and it's also available for companies with Microsoft support contracts.
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August 19, 2009 4:40:22 AM

i heard it was available on the internets >:], although would you still have to buy the real version when it comes out?
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August 19, 2009 5:01:18 AM

Which planet have you been living on? If you want to run a valid, licensed copy of Windows then yes, you need to buy a "real" version of it. It doesn't really matter all that much where you get the software, what you're paying for is the license key which allows you to activate it.
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August 19, 2009 5:49:34 AM

ComputerNewbie, Windows 7 is quite available at the moment. You can get the Release Candidate (build 7100) direct from Microsoft until August 20th. That download (which it sounds like from your first post is the one you might have) is located here: http://tinyurl.com/9agzvs . The second method with which you can get the Windows 7 RTM (essentially the final version) is through either a MSDN or TechNet Plus subscription. It was released to them on the 6th of this month (source: http://tinyurl.com/nu26jt ). So if you are anxious to get the final bits early for your new machine build, then that is a way to legally go about it. You can get a lot of other goodies through MSDN and TechNet Plus. If you are an enthusiast, IT Pro, or just the family geek, then you could probably get a lot of use out of TechNet Plus. Legal OS licenses, Application suite tests, previews on new tech bits, all sorts of goodies. Personally I have MSDN, since I do a good bit of coding here and there. I'll be switching my Windows 7 RC machines over to RTM as soon as I can get some free time. Also, Microsoft has already detected and broken several attempts at activation methods that the public have come out with. Don't make a bet that any one particular workaround will work for long (unless you unhook it from the net and never ever update it). Also Sminlal is correct, as of the 16th Microsoft partner network members can also get it (source: http://tinyurl.com/nrsmj2 ). For those of us who don't have any of the above, nor a Volume License Agreement or any other of those methods, then the availability date is October 22nd.
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August 19, 2009 7:24:07 AM

How do you subscribe to MSDN or technet plus? Seems like something i might be interested in the long run
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August 19, 2009 2:33:37 PM

MSDN is tailored towards software developers, so unless you have some fairly deep training/education (formal or informal) you may want to choose TechNet.

TECHNET HOME PAGE

The subscriptions box is on the upper right of the page. A Technet Plus sub will get you full software downloads (The RTM version of Server 2008R2 went up last week, as well)[ and usage in your own/test systems. Be advised that - depending on the deal at the time - it's a $300+/year fee.

If all you want is a copy for your computer, you'd probably be better off waiting and buying a normal Retail or OEM copy. But if you like to play with the stuff and have several computers at home, the subscription pays for itself.



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August 19, 2009 2:36:27 PM

It probably isn't worth the cost for a single user... unless you REALLY love MS software. Mind you, downloading Windows 7, Office 2007 and Server 2008 does seem really appealing... and if you did that, it might just be worth the price of the subscription. (Technet Plus starts at $349.00, but MSDN starts at $699.00 for only Windows... not worth it for the average user).
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August 19, 2009 2:39:25 PM

Scott, do you get more than one license? I can see it being worth it if you have a lot of computers and get more than one license... but if you only get one license per piece of software, then it doesn't seem worth it. From what I read on the website, you only get one license per piece of software.
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August 19, 2009 3:33:40 PM

Zoron said:
Scott, do you get more than one license? I can see it being worth it if you have a lot of computers and get more than one license... but if you only get one license per piece of software, then it doesn't seem worth it. From what I read on the website, you only get one license per piece of software.



You have nearly unlimited rights for your Technet account for your own testing/usage. If you need a key, you can go to the download area, click on the appropriate link, and get one instantly. It also remembers the keys you have in a list, so you can retrieve them later if you want. In the course of my playing around, I've used probably half a dozen licence keys in the last year. I do it mostly for my own amusement, and to play with the betas and stuff I wouldn't ordinarily touch. You know, things like checking Randall Kennedy's claims that Win Server 2008 is a better client than Vista**. I have two PC's at home, plus the S/O's Mac. Planning on retiring one to my Nephew to use for school and building another for myself later this year.

From a strict "buy the licence" point of view, I am definitely not in the black as far as dollars spent. But I get a lot of personal value from playing with the stuff (...because I can...), have ready access to the Technet Library, access to forums populated with reasonable, educated, and trained people who really know their stuff (as opposed to some of the puerile trolls we have here), online courses should I choose to participate, etc etc..

Worth it for me. May or may not be for others, depending on their personal situation and wants/needs.



**(It is - *IF* you strip away all the server specific stuff and only want/need to have a very bare bones workstation that's good for work only. For home usage you end up putting back all the end user and Multimedia stuff anyhow. The result being that you did a WHOLE LOT of work, and paid a WHOLE LOT of money for a server licence... in order to Re-Create Vista.. and when you do that the net/sum is it doesn't run noticably better than Vista anyhow... Now, this is an argument for MSFT creating a lightweight "Workstation" distro, sure. But it doesn't accomplish a damned thing for home users and gamers.)
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