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December 5, 2004 4:34:35 PM

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I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on the
pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail version
of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and stuff like
the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean XP
install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities like
cmdcons not included?

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Anonymous
December 5, 2004 9:49:42 PM

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you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i am
aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather than
purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering the
'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from the
dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i suggest
that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire '\i386'
folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and then
editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find under
hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion

"Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on the
> pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
> version
> of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and stuff
> like
> the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean XP
> install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities like
> cmdcons not included?
>
>
Anonymous
December 6, 2004 4:11:05 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

> i suggest that once your installation is complete that
> you copy the entire '\i386' folder from the cd to the
> root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and then
> editing the 'source path' in the registry

Christopher,

I wonder if that is still necessary? I've been used to doing that
since Win95 (copying the Win95 cab files) so as to avoid the irritating
"please insert your Windows 95 disk" when making hardware changes. But
I've never received similar msgs from XP, even though not all machines
have the I386 folder copied. However, they do have a
"C:\Windows\Driver Cache\i386\driver.cab" file, so I'm wondering if the
XP setup routine puts that there to avoid the "please insert.." prompts
without having to copy the entire I386 folder. (I don't have any
special knowledge that that is the case, so am wondering if you know.)
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Anonymous
December 7, 2004 12:54:34 AM

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i too make the copy of the source to the local disk out of habit... and
generally find that it is not needed for changes made to the os, but there
was one time that i was asked for the original os cd but i can't recall what
i was doing to result in that message... so i just do it to provide a
complete installation that is similar to the oem installation. why doesn't
the install script just do this for you i wonder.

<dg1261@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1102367465.905345.204690@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> i suggest that once your installation is complete that
>> you copy the entire '\i386' folder from the cd to the
>> root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and then
>> editing the 'source path' in the registry
>
> Christopher,
>
> I wonder if that is still necessary? I've been used to doing that
> since Win95 (copying the Win95 cab files) so as to avoid the irritating
> "please insert your Windows 95 disk" when making hardware changes. But
> I've never received similar msgs from XP, even though not all machines
> have the I386 folder copied. However, they do have a
> "C:\Windows\Driver Cache\i386\driver.cab" file, so I'm wondering if the
> XP setup routine puts that there to avoid the "please insert.." prompts
> without having to copy the entire I386 folder. (I don't have any
> special knowledge that that is the case, so am wondering if you know.)
>
Anonymous
December 8, 2004 1:22:09 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Using '95 or the '98 variations:
if you copy d:\win98 to c:\win98, THEN run setup from c:\win98, the system
will always search the hard drive first and you'll never need the CDROM.

In the NT family of programs (2K, XP) the i386 folder is copied to the hdd
during setup automatically, and the pointers are set to look there.

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:uy4td.638$Dr4.517@trndny02...
>i too make the copy of the source to the local disk out of habit... and
>generally find that it is not needed for changes made to the os, but there
>was one time that i was asked for the original os cd but i can't recall
>what i was doing to result in that message... so i just do it to provide a
>complete installation that is similar to the oem installation. why doesn't
>the install script just do this for you i wonder.
>
> <dg1261@cs.com> wrote in message
> news:1102367465.905345.204690@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> i suggest that once your installation is complete that
>>> you copy the entire '\i386' folder from the cd to the
>>> root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and then
>>> editing the 'source path' in the registry
>>
>> Christopher,
>>
>> I wonder if that is still necessary? I've been used to doing that
>> since Win95 (copying the Win95 cab files) so as to avoid the irritating
>> "please insert your Windows 95 disk" when making hardware changes. But
>> I've never received similar msgs from XP, even though not all machines
>> have the I386 folder copied. However, they do have a
>> "C:\Windows\Driver Cache\i386\driver.cab" file, so I'm wondering if the
>> XP setup routine puts that there to avoid the "please insert.." prompts
>> without having to copy the entire I386 folder. (I don't have any
>> special knowledge that that is the case, so am wondering if you know.)
>>
>
>
December 9, 2004 12:32:44 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does not
have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that I've
not yet discovered.

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i am
> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather
than
> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering
the
> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from the
> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
suggest
> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire '\i386'
> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and
then
> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
under
> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
>
> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on the
> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
> > version
> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and stuff
> > like
> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean XP
> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
like
> > cmdcons not included?
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
December 9, 2004 1:02:59 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Funny...my Dell CD included the recovery console.

Ted Zieglar

"Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does not
> have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that I've
> not yet discovered.
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
>> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i am
>> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather
> than
>> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
>> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering
> the
>> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
>> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
>> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from the
>> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
> suggest
>> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire '\i386'
>> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and
> then
>> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
> under
>> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
>>
>> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on the
>> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
>> > version
>> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and stuff
>> > like
>> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean XP
>> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
> like
>> > cmdcons not included?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
December 9, 2004 1:21:19 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Every copy of Dell's XP I own has the recovery console. What makes you
think it does not?

Tom
"Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does not
> have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that I've
> not yet discovered.
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
>> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i am
>> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather
> than
>> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
>> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering
> the
>> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
>> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
>> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from the
>> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
> suggest
>> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire '\i386'
>> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and
> then
>> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
> under
>> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
>>
>> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on the
>> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
>> > version
>> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and stuff
>> > like
>> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean XP
>> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
> like
>> > cmdcons not included?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
December 9, 2004 2:51:40 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

that's not my experience or recommendation...

with win98 i format the hd and then copy the source folder (d:\win98) and
its sub folders to a c:\windows\options\cabs folder (just like an oem
install). this means that other knowledgeable people that may step up to
the computer won't have to hunt to find where the previous person may have
placed it. additionally i do the copy using the xcopy command that is on
the windows 98 cd (d:\tools\oldmsdos\xcopy if i remember correctly... it has
been a while) using the '/s' switch to capture the sub folders one of which
contains the windows tour. the only caveat is that setup will come to a
point where it asks you what folder you want to install windows in and will
complain that 'c:\windows' already exists (because you already created
c:\windows\options\cabs) and so suggests 'c:\windows.000' as an alternate
folder... so you have to specify the 'c:\windows' folder.

with windows xp oem cds, i have not had the good fortune of the \i386 folder
being copied to the root folder like how a factory software image is
shipped. and i find that the registry refers to the 'install source' as the
'd:\i386' (the cd drive). hence my detailed suggestion above. perhaps the
retail version does it differently, but i doubt that. a system restore is
an entirely different matter and perhaps that is what you are talking about.

"personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk" <dick_silk@antispam.gov> wrote in message
news:41b67fe0$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Using '95 or the '98 variations:
> if you copy d:\win98 to c:\win98, THEN run setup from c:\win98, the system
> will always search the hard drive first and you'll never need the CDROM.
>
> In the NT family of programs (2K, XP) the i386 folder is copied to the hdd
> during setup automatically, and the pointers are set to look there.
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:uy4td.638$Dr4.517@trndny02...
>>i too make the copy of the source to the local disk out of habit... and
>>generally find that it is not needed for changes made to the os, but there
>>was one time that i was asked for the original os cd but i can't recall
>>what i was doing to result in that message... so i just do it to provide a
>>complete installation that is similar to the oem installation. why
>>doesn't the install script just do this for you i wonder.
>>
>> <dg1261@cs.com> wrote in message
>> news:1102367465.905345.204690@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> i suggest that once your installation is complete that
>>>> you copy the entire '\i386' folder from the cd to the
>>>> root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and then
>>>> editing the 'source path' in the registry
>>>
>>> Christopher,
>>>
>>> I wonder if that is still necessary? I've been used to doing that
>>> since Win95 (copying the Win95 cab files) so as to avoid the irritating
>>> "please insert your Windows 95 disk" when making hardware changes. But
>>> I've never received similar msgs from XP, even though not all machines
>>> have the I386 folder copied. However, they do have a
>>> "C:\Windows\Driver Cache\i386\driver.cab" file, so I'm wondering if the
>>> XP setup routine puts that there to avoid the "please insert.." prompts
>>> without having to copy the entire I386 folder. (I don't have any
>>> special knowledge that that is the case, so am wondering if you know.)
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
December 9, 2004 9:05:36 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

billy, if you read my post you would have seen that i clearly said it was
the only difference that i am aware of (not the de-facto only difference
period). i stand by that statement. it really can't be disputed unless you
have some superhuman psychic abilities or are calling me a liar ;)  as for
the recovery console, my experience is the same as ted and tom; it is in
there... but there might be some other differences (though i suspect they
only would be default preferences as dictated by the installation script,
not feature differences).

"Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does not
> have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that I've
> not yet discovered.
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
>> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i am
>> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather
> than
>> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
>> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering
> the
>> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
>> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
>> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from the
>> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
> suggest
>> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire '\i386'
>> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and
> then
>> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
> under
>> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
>>
>> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on the
>> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
>> > version
>> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and stuff
>> > like
>> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean XP
>> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
> like
>> > cmdcons not included?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
December 9, 2004 9:05:37 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

There is one additional difference to mention, and I'm not bringing this up
to be a PITA, because I respect Christopher's knowledge a great deal, so
it's just for the record: The Dell CD also includes Dell's customizations to
the Help and Support Center.

Having said that, it appears from postings in the Dell Community Forum that
historically, Dell's attempts to put support into its installation often
don't work out for one reason or another. Dell's overlay of Help and Support
can be removed.

Ted Zieglar

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:QWRtd.855$eO5.692@trndny08...
> billy, if you read my post you would have seen that i clearly said it was
> the only difference that i am aware of (not the de-facto only difference
> period). i stand by that statement. it really can't be disputed unless
> you have some superhuman psychic abilities or are calling me a liar ;)  as
> for the recovery console, my experience is the same as ted and tom; it is
> in there... but there might be some other differences (though i suspect
> they only would be default preferences as dictated by the installation
> script, not feature differences).
>
> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>> It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does not
>> have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that I've
>> not yet discovered.
>>
>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
>>> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i
>>> am
>>> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather
>> than
>>> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
>>> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering
>> the
>>> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
>>> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
>>> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from the
>>> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
>> suggest
>>> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire '\i386'
>>> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and
>> then
>>> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
>> under
>>> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
>>>
>>> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>>> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on the
>>> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
>>> > version
>>> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and
>>> > stuff
>>> > like
>>> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean XP
>>> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
>> like
>>> > cmdcons not included?
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
December 9, 2004 10:25:16 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:k_OdnTZaqPg1oSXcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>I have to agree here. I ONLY copy the Win98 and NONE of the
>sub-directories. I do, however, put it in c:\windows\options\cabs, as
>that's where most people expect it.
>
> So you're both, sort of, right! (at least by me)
>
> Tom

diplomatically put there, Tom... :-)

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December 10, 2004 12:54:04 AM

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What directory and what ia the name of the file?

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:QWRtd.855$eO5.692@trndny08...
> billy, if you read my post you would have seen that i clearly said it was
> the only difference that i am aware of (not the de-facto only difference
> period). i stand by that statement. it really can't be disputed unless
you
> have some superhuman psychic abilities or are calling me a liar ;)  as for
> the recovery console, my experience is the same as ted and tom; it is in
> there... but there might be some other differences (though i suspect they
> only would be default preferences as dictated by the installation script,
> not feature differences).
>
> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does
not
> > have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that
I've
> > not yet discovered.
> >
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
> >> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i
am
> >> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather
> > than
> >> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
> >> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering
> > the
> >> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
> >> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
> >> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from
the
> >> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
> > suggest
> >> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire
'\i386'
> >> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and
> > then
> >> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
> > under
> >> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
> >>
> >> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> >> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on
the
> >> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
> >> > version
> >> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and
stuff
> >> > like
> >> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean
XP
> >> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
> > like
> >> > cmdcons not included?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
December 10, 2004 12:54:33 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Where?

"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:FY-dnQZfd7L8XSrcRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Funny...my Dell CD included the recovery console.
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does
not
> > have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that
I've
> > not yet discovered.
> >
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
> >> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i
am
> >> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather
> > than
> >> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
> >> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering
> > the
> >> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
> >> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
> >> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from
the
> >> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
> > suggest
> >> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire
'\i386'
> >> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and
> > then
> >> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
> > under
> >> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
> >>
> >> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> >> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on
the
> >> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
> >> > version
> >> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and
stuff
> >> > like
> >> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean
XP
> >> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
> > like
> >> > cmdcons not included?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
December 10, 2004 12:54:45 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Where is it located?

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:hNKdnemniNTVWSrcRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> Every copy of Dell's XP I own has the recovery console. What makes you
> think it does not?
>
> Tom
> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> > It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does
not
> > have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that
I've
> > not yet discovered.
> >
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
> >> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i
am
> >> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers rather
> > than
> >> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a "manufacturer
> >> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye entering
> > the
> >> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
> >> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
> >> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from
the
> >> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
> > suggest
> >> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire
'\i386'
> >> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386) and
> > then
> >> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
> > under
> >> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
> >>
> >> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> >> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on
the
> >> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
> >> > version
> >> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and
stuff
> >> > like
> >> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean
XP
> >> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
> > like
> >> > cmdcons not included?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
December 10, 2004 1:00:26 AM

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I followed the instructions in Dell's knowledge base:

"How do I use the Microsoft Windows XP Recovery Console?"
http://tinyurl.com/6rfux

Ted Zieglar

"Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Y9Cdnf7VitNskiTcRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> Where?
>
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:FY-dnQZfd7L8XSrcRVn-rg@comcast.com...
>> Funny...my Dell CD included the recovery console.
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>> > It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does
> not
>> > have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that
> I've
>> > not yet discovered.
>> >
>> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> > news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
>> >> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i
> am
>> >> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers
>> >> rather
>> > than
>> >> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a
>> >> "manufacturer
>> >> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye
>> >> entering
>> > the
>> >> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
>> >> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
>> >> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from
> the
>> >> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
>> > suggest
>> >> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire
> '\i386'
>> >> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386)
>> >> and
>> > then
>> >> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
>> > under
>> >> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
>> >>
>> >> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>> >> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on
> the
>> >> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
>> >> > version
>> >> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and
> stuff
>> >> > like
>> >> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean
> XP
>> >> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
>> > like
>> >> > cmdcons not included?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Anonymous
December 10, 2004 2:44:01 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

You boot to the XP CD and it gives you the option. See the previous post
with more detailed instructions.
"Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPadnRY6urlmkiTcRVn-rg@comcast.com...
> Where is it located?
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:hNKdnemniNTVWSrcRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
>> Every copy of Dell's XP I own has the recovery console. What makes you
>> think it does not?
>>
>> Tom
>> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>> > It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does
> not
>> > have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that
> I've
>> > not yet discovered.
>> >
>> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> > news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
>> >> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i
> am
>> >> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers
>> >> rather
>> > than
>> >> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a
>> >> "manufacturer
>> >> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye
>> >> entering
>> > the
>> >> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
>> >> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
>> >> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from
> the
>> >> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
>> > suggest
>> >> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire
> '\i386'
>> >> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386)
>> >> and
>> > then
>> >> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
>> > under
>> >> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
>> >>
>> >> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>> >> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on
> the
>> >> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
>> >> > version
>> >> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and
> stuff
>> >> > like
>> >> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean
> XP
>> >> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
>> > like
>> >> > cmdcons not included?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
December 10, 2004 9:09:30 AM

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given your last response i thought you would be telling us... read the above
replies for the answer, and remember, people here are helping you, so try to
be polite and appreciative of their efforts.

"Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YM2dnWVcFPtPkiTcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> What directory and what ia the name of the file?
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:QWRtd.855$eO5.692@trndny08...
>> billy, if you read my post you would have seen that i clearly said it was
>> the only difference that i am aware of (not the de-facto only difference
>> period). i stand by that statement. it really can't be disputed unless
> you
>> have some superhuman psychic abilities or are calling me a liar ;)  as
>> for
>> the recovery console, my experience is the same as ted and tom; it is in
>> there... but there might be some other differences (though i suspect they
>> only would be default preferences as dictated by the installation script,
>> not feature differences).
>>
>> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>> > It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does
> not
>> > have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that
> I've
>> > not yet discovered.
>> >
>> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> > news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
>> >> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference i
> am
>> >> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers
>> >> rather
>> > than
>> >> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a
>> >> "manufacturer
>> >> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye
>> >> entering
>> > the
>> >> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu' tab,
>> >> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
>> >> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from
> the
>> >> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
>> > suggest
>> >> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire
> '\i386'
>> >> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386)
>> >> and
>> > then
>> >> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will find
>> > under
>> >> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
>> >>
>> >> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>> >> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on
> the
>> >> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user retail
>> >> > version
>> >> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and
> stuff
>> >> > like
>> >> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a clean
> XP
>> >> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical utilities
>> > like
>> >> > cmdcons not included?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
December 10, 2004 5:17:53 PM

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Who is not being appreciative? I think you need to get the stick out of your
*ss. Just because someone responds with a question or questions your opinion
doesn't mean he's not appreciative. All I said what that your comment was
not true, and asked for specifics. I noticed how you responded to the other
gentleman and I feel that you are not being very polite.

The other responders provided the resources that I asked for in the original
post. That's all I was looking for - a confirmation and/or direction.

"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:u4bud.3512$t44.2867@trndny03...
> given your last response i thought you would be telling us... read the
above
> replies for the answer, and remember, people here are helping you, so try
to
> be polite and appreciative of their efforts.
>
> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YM2dnWVcFPtPkiTcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> > What directory and what ia the name of the file?
> >
> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:QWRtd.855$eO5.692@trndny08...
> >> billy, if you read my post you would have seen that i clearly said it
was
> >> the only difference that i am aware of (not the de-facto only
difference
> >> period). i stand by that statement. it really can't be disputed
unless
> > you
> >> have some superhuman psychic abilities or are calling me a liar ;)  as
> >> for
> >> the recovery console, my experience is the same as ted and tom; it is
in
> >> there... but there might be some other differences (though i suspect
they
> >> only would be default preferences as dictated by the installation
script,
> >> not feature differences).
> >>
> >> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:l5adnccbOMrMJCrcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> >> > It is not true that the link is the only differance. The Dell CD does
> > not
> >> > have the recovery console, and possibly other XP Pro features - that
> > I've
> >> > not yet discovered.
> >> >
> >> > "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:aLIsd.1577$gF5.152@trndny01...
> >> >> you will get a clean install of xp oem edition. the only difference
i
> > am
> >> >> aware of between the oem edition (the cd supplied with computers
> >> >> rather
> >> > than
> >> >> purchased in a separate retails package) is that it has a
> >> >> "manufacturer
> >> >> link" option in the start menu. you can disable this link bye
> >> >> entering
> >> > the
> >> >> 'taskbar and start menu properties', selecting the 'start menu'
tab,
> >> >> 'customize' button, 'advanced' tab, and unchecking the box next to
> >> >> 'manufacturer link'. if you start the install by first booting from
> > the
> >> >> dell oem xp cd then you will not be asked to 'activate' windows. i
> >> > suggest
> >> >> that once your installation is complete that you copy the entire
> > '\i386'
> >> >> folder from the cd to the root directory of the hard disk (c:\i386)
> >> >> and
> >> > then
> >> >> editing the 'source path' in the registry to 'c:\' which you will
find
> >> > under
> >> >> hklocalmachine-software-microsoft-windowsnt-currentversion
> >> >>
> >> >> "Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:2ridnS-aXLcgyS7cRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> >> >> >I want to reinstall XP without all the extra stuff that Dell put on
> > the
> >> >> > pre-built machine. What is the difference vs. the single user
retail
> >> >> > version
> >> >> > of XP? There seems to be a Dell cab file in an OEM directory, and
> > stuff
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > the recovery console is not available on the CD. Will I get a
clean
> > XP
> >> >> > install from this CD, or a "Dell" version? Why is critical
utilities
> >> > like
> >> >> > cmdcons not included?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 2:08:14 AM

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<plonk>

"Billy" <nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:D sKdnRejZdj1ayTcRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
> Who is not being appreciative? I think you need to get the stick out of
> your
> *ss.
Anonymous
December 11, 2004 2:58:01 PM

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You must have a special magic XP CD!

"personalpages.tds.net/~rcsilk" <dick_silk@antispam.gov> wrote in message
news:41bab45f$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> right now, I've got 4 of them (2, not including misc backups) totalling
> over 600 megs of drive space. I did NOT put them there, and I formatted /
> reinstalled only about a month ago.
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:l%aud.778$ag6.423@trndny07...
>> you have found that windows xp copies a \i386 folder? would like to know
>> how you and rcsilk manage that. thanks.
>>
!