GeForce FX canned?!?

[Schryver]

I don't speculate, I just report on speculation.

The <A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7615" target="_new">below article</A> was taken from <A HREF="http://theinquirer.net" target="_new">theinquirer.net.</A>

<b>GeForce FX canned? Nvidia refuses to comment</b>

Graphics war skirmish at edge of network

By INQUIRER staff: Wednesday 05 February 2003, 10:39


"Never in the history of computing has so much bulls*** been written by so many with such little truth" – a friend close to Nvidia
NVIDIA UK HAS REFUSED to comment on a posting on a 3D bulletin board claiming that the GeForce FX is for the chop.

According to the rumour, posted at x-3DFX, Nvidia is canning the GeForce FX and has told its foundry, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp (TSMC), to stop when 100,000 NV30 are produced.

The same posting claimed that Nvidia will now concentrate on NV31, NV34, and NV35 and want to ensure that it doesn't get caught short by any cunning plans ATI may or may not have.

We reported last month that Nvidia forecast sales of 100,000 GeForce FX by the end of May – market research company iSuppli said yesterday the card is a specialist product in any case.

But Nvidia UK said this morning it did not comment on speculation posted on bulletin boards.

Myself, I'm not surprised to hear rumors like this. Nvidia needs to cut its losses with this amazingly subpar video card-turned-noisemaker. Time will tell if this is truth or merely the ramblings of an overactive imagination.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by schryver on 02/05/03 06:19 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Sergotha]

Dam... I could really care less about the sound now. Just got a lovely set of giant ear muffs "Some head phones" They sound real good and cant hear anything out side. Like the other day I was playing raven shield mp demo "Great game!" and couldnt hear anything but sounds from the game. Once the 15th round ended I pulled off the head phones for a break and I could hear my fiance beating on the window behind me. It seems she left her keys on the table and locked herself out of the house... She was outside for about 30-45 minutes pounding away trying to get my attention... So the sound is nothing... But the little performance gain it has over the 9700 pro... That is the reason they need to can the dam thing.

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[RCPilot]

It doesn't surprise me. I figured it all along since the benches. If it's true, don't get burned with getting a FX.

I'm still learning & having fun doing it!! Trouble comes with the things you forget or overlook along the way that make it not so fun!!

 

[dhlucke]

Good riddance. It's probably just a rumor though. Nvidia seems to think this card is "innovative."

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[Conehead]

Yes, slowly degrading our hearing with the hopes of rendering us completely deaf, and then Marketing new video cards that sound like dump trucks driving through glass factories...I would call that innovative! No??

"Hey!! Who's that hiding behind the bush??!...Well Wingding of course!"

 

[groth2757]

I hope they can that P.O.S....they need to go back to the drawing board.

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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. -Vezzini and Inigo</font color=blue>

 

[Schryver]

Somehow I don't even think <i>they</i> believe their own hype. There is not a single redeeming quality about this card.

 

[Crashman]

Hehe, now their's a marketing ploy...make ATI THINK you're releasing your "latest" card early, get them to release the R350 early as well, in a comprimized state, then swing back 2 weeks after their release with a REAL killer card! It would take ATI over a month to come up with the replacement for the comprimised R350. A month of lead time to get your card out in droves!

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[10GHZ]

ye... Nvidia is not going 2 cut the production of the fx, thats like rocking their own feet, considering how much money and man power they put into developing it.

 

[flamethrower205]

Hehe, that'd be an interesting tactic. perhaps they have something better hidden. Who knows. I suppose that if they kill this gf and make a better one soon, it'd be better for them.

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti

 

[Crashman]

It's like, let me distact you with this pawn while I open up a position for my bishop.

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[flamethrower205]

could a company do that though? I mean is it feasible resource wise?

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti

 

[Spitfire_x86]

Yes, it's true. I also use good headphones and can't hear anything but the game sounds while playing a game. I think the best way to fight noise problems of GF-FX is using headphones. GF-FX card manufacturers should give a headphone for free with every GF-FX card

<b> "You can put lipstick on a pig, but hey, it's still a pig!" - RobD </b>

 

[Crashman]

A 100,000 units, yes it is! You see, they don't have to recover 100% of the DEVELOPEMENT cost, if the first release is an "unfinished" product. They only need to recover part of the developement cost and all of the settup cost. All they would need these 100,000 cards to do is keep their loyal customers from changing brands until they can release something better! So what if they loose a little money from promoting it, that money is well spent towards keeping customers for future products.

They had to do something, and fast. The reputation of the 9700 Pro was sucking customers from their pool. They told their customers to wait for the FX, so they did...for a while. After the dates became more solid, people said "I prefer nVidia but I can't wait till March, I guess I'll buy the ATI card." So nVidia did an early launch of an unfinished product, simply to maintain their reputation as the maker of the hottest (pun) video cards. That got customers to wait a bit longer. And the initial numbers were good, so the customers thought they were right. Then the truth about the card's problems came out. People said "I already have a vacuum cleaner, thanks" to which nVidia responds they'll be releasing a new version of the FX a month after the original!

Now how does ATI respond? They weren't fully aware of nVidia's delay tactics, only that nVidia was promissing a fast card in March. They talked to their foundries, and sure enough, March was pleanty of time for the .13 micron switch. It cost less to take your time a bit in the transition. But nVidia caught ATI off guard, and ATI thought they had better release an unfinished R350 to beat the FX. The finished R350 gets a new name, the R400. Perhaps the planned R400 gets renamed the R450, etc. The end result is that ATI makes cards they shouldn't. Foundries that were supposed to be switching to .13 micron now get stuffed with orders for an additional chip, with all their equipement busy, settup and testing will be more difficult. And a whole bunch of customers get upset because their R350 is not what they expected. nVidia marketing lives off this stuff.

How much was planned, and how much was by chance? You figure it out, I have a headache.

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[flamethrower205]

Well I'm tryin to be a hick right now cause I gotta write an essay on Huck Finn partna. A 'suppose all dem perty gibberish is true.

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti

 

[Lonemagi]

I smell another Voodoo 5 5000...

But dont see nvidia getting sucked up by anybody but maybe microsoft.

Imagine, Microsoft brand video cards.... then MS cpu's, then the world *mwahahaha*

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[bobmitch]

Don't think there is any truth to the rumor...I was in Best Buy here in the Dallas, TX area tonight and there are GForce FX boxes on the shelves. The box states "There is NO product in this box" For deposit purposes only. Take this box to the register and pay $100 and you will have reserved a GForce FX Board...I think they're following through with it.

Bob

 

[flamethrower205]

they gotta sell the 100,000 cards, right?

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti

 

[GeneticWeapon]

Crash, that is one hell of a conspiracy theory you've started.....some people might believe it....have you been feeling ok lately?....I've noticed a little fanatacism out of you lately. I think that when THG's review of Shuttle mini PC's came out, something inside yer head snapped, and you never recovered. That was hella funny. Now we're just left with a half-cracked-back version of CrashMan to squabble with....

If someone with multiple personalities, threatens to commit suicide, is that a hostage situation?..xXZoomInstagibXx

 

[dhlucke]

Three things will drive Crashman to the brink of war
1. VIA
2. Antec
3. Shuttle mini pc

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[RobD]

Maybe we could get the UN to draw up some resolutions. "Now Crash, about this VIA thing, mention it again and we'll send the boys round, understand? And if we find any of these Shuttle thingies...."

Sorry Crash! I'm just pulling your chain!

 

[dhlucke]

Ah crap! He's probably going to kill you! You said 2 of his forbidden words...

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[RobD]

:frown: In the words of Monty Python...<b> Run away! Run away!</b>

Now where's that rock I crawled from under...? Better get back there!

 

[dhlucke]

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[RobD]