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bad fps with 2.26 and radeon 9700 pro

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March 10, 2003 1:23:22 AM

I just got a radeon 9700 pro.

Im running my desktop and most games at 1280x1024

In Americas army with 4x fsaa and 8x aniso i can at most get 35 or so fps outside, even changing resolutions doesnt do anything.

I set the settings of my card to performace on everything as low as they would go and i can still only get a maximum of 60 fps outside in 1280x. I turned the res down to 1024x to test and only gained 10 or so fps.

Command and conquer generals seems to run a bit slow, as does unreal.

I mean the games are playable at 4x fsaa and 8x ani filtering, but im certainly not getting what i expected.

Anyone clues?

512 pc2100 ram, xp, 2.26, and abit bd7II mobo.

thanks alot.

(ps: tried turning off vsync, and settings mipmap and those other settings to preformace also.)
March 10, 2003 1:29:22 AM

if i run into this types of problem..i would look into other drivers, have you installed directx and mobo...etc drivers properly? reinstall all of them.
March 10, 2003 12:09:53 PM

well my 3dmark03 score was 4500 which is pretty damn good, so i dont know whats up

just appears to be my americas army fps that suck.
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March 10, 2003 2:29:00 PM

you have to remember, the AA and AF hit framerates big time. Not to mention your running pretty high end games there, it's not like your running quake III. Splinter cell i drop down to 25 fps sometimes in combat, and that's without AF or AA on. If you want faster fps, turn off the AA and AF, otherwise you'll probably have to deal with it -_-

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March 17, 2003 4:22:13 PM

I'm not sure what you expect. You're tying a 10-tonne load onto your Porsche and still expecting it to do the 1/4 mile in 10 secs. It's not going to happen. If you are FPS happy, you gotta turn off FSAA and aniso. No ifs, ands, or buts.

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March 17, 2003 5:59:15 PM

Please explain why anything above 30fps matters? I was under the impression that the human eye couldn't process more than 30fps. Is this a wrong assumption?
March 17, 2003 10:09:52 PM

30 frames per second MINIMUM is okay. 30 frames per second average is bad in most games because that average is the average of peaks and dips - and some of those dips can be pretty big. In No One Lives Forever 2, I can be running around 30 frames per second in most sections then hit 7 FPS with a lot of enemies on screen. Except that's mainly because I insist on running it on a high detail level then they recommend I run it at for my Geforce 2 Pro.
March 18, 2003 1:55:12 AM

well basicly when you need the fps up, you're usually in the middle of a fight in a game, if you average say 30 fps, your fights could be 7 fps, while walking around is 70~80 fps, so it averages to 30. As far as the human eye can see, yes the eye can only see 30 fps, but it can tell the difference between 30fps and 100fps, try it, you'll notice a difference, but you can't see it (you have to try it to see) It's not like we are arguing 450fps to 500. Either way he's gona have to turn off the AA and AF or at least tone it down to play at the FPS he's lookin for

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March 18, 2003 2:17:37 AM

The human eye can process more than 30 fps. 30 fps is the least you see without lag. If you are getting about 60, then you will notice a lot less choppiness and if you have framesync disabled (which helps improve framerates), you won't see the lines being drawn across the screen.

I mean, when using monitors, 60hz is the minimum because it still flickers, if you watch it carefully, you can see the screen blink. That's why monitor's are considered flicker-free at 75hz and above, because it is clearer at that rate.

Let's just put it this way, the higher the better. The cleaner the image will be and the less likely you are to lag with lots of action on the screen.

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ATI 9700 Pro
16x DVD-ROM
2x80GB 7200RPM Maxtor
Onboard audio
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