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Hi all,
This came up last week during a game, and it caused an interesting
debate. We decided that it could work, but would like to get an
official answer (in the end it didn't matter, as it was voted down, but
still ...).
The set up is as follows.
I'm playing a Daughter/weenie Ventrue vote deck (and ended up playing
against 3 other vote/high voting decks). My prey is playing Ventrue,
and has Arika and Lucinde in play.
I get the sneaky idea to call Ventrue Justicar, but instead of choosing
my one piddly Ventrue, I choose Arika, in the hopes that if the vote
passes, Arika becomes the Ventrue Justicar. But since my prey also has
Lucinde in play, that the Justicar title is then immediately be given
up, as a methuselah cannot self-contest. Net result, Arika loses her 4
votes.
So the question is, can this be done? The argument against was that
since a player cannot self-contest, the vote couldn't be used on Arika
since he already had a Ventrue Justicar in play. The argument for it is
a title being contested, not the actual card (i.e. if I have voted
someone into being the Prince of Paris, that doesn't prevent me from
bringing out Francois Villon, just that one of my vampires must give up
the title immediately, correct?).
By extention, could Praxis Seizures/Crusades be called on vampires
controlled by a player who also controls the Prince/Archbishop of the
city in question?
Name: Ventrue Justicar
[Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R]
Venture Justicar
Cardtype: Political Action
Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth.
Choose a ready Ventrue. Successful referendum means he or she is
declared Ventrue Justicar. In this referendum, each Ventrue gets 1
extra vote. This could lead to a contested title.
Thanks!
Chris, aka Martin, Elder of Clan Tremere
Hi all,
This came up last week during a game, and it caused an interesting
debate. We decided that it could work, but would like to get an
official answer (in the end it didn't matter, as it was voted down, but
still ...).
The set up is as follows.
I'm playing a Daughter/weenie Ventrue vote deck (and ended up playing
against 3 other vote/high voting decks). My prey is playing Ventrue,
and has Arika and Lucinde in play.
I get the sneaky idea to call Ventrue Justicar, but instead of choosing
my one piddly Ventrue, I choose Arika, in the hopes that if the vote
passes, Arika becomes the Ventrue Justicar. But since my prey also has
Lucinde in play, that the Justicar title is then immediately be given
up, as a methuselah cannot self-contest. Net result, Arika loses her 4
votes.
So the question is, can this be done? The argument against was that
since a player cannot self-contest, the vote couldn't be used on Arika
since he already had a Ventrue Justicar in play. The argument for it is
a title being contested, not the actual card (i.e. if I have voted
someone into being the Prince of Paris, that doesn't prevent me from
bringing out Francois Villon, just that one of my vampires must give up
the title immediately, correct?).
By extention, could Praxis Seizures/Crusades be called on vampires
controlled by a player who also controls the Prince/Archbishop of the
city in question?
Name: Ventrue Justicar
[Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R]
Venture Justicar
Cardtype: Political Action
Political Card - Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth.
Choose a ready Ventrue. Successful referendum means he or she is
declared Ventrue Justicar. In this referendum, each Ventrue gets 1
extra vote. This could lead to a contested title.
Thanks!
Chris, aka Martin, Elder of Clan Tremere