Well Dr. Tom that is pretty impressive. You shouldn't underestimate your ability(or that of other sites) to reach many of the other non-techies as you stated. Its only a matter of time.
This is why: The people(enthusiests etc.) that frequent these pages usually are the same people that are asked about computer related issues(i.e. purchases, upgrades) by people that do not know that much about computers(general public)
The Trickle down effect:
So if I recommend an AMD system to 2 people(ususally on a daily basis), they may buy AMD computers because of my expertise(word of mouth-much more effective than advertising)). They will be quite happy with their purchase(in most cases) and when asked by there friends about what computer to buy they will say AMD and so it goes on and on.
As you can tell on your forum, that is if you even read posts on the forum, that most people are recommending AMD systems.
So thanks to the internet(age of enlightenment) and sites like yours, people who want to can become much more educated about computers. They can then pass on their knowledge to less able persons. No manner of marketing muscle will change a persons view if they know better.
Unfortunately it takes a while for the message to get around but when it does it creates long lasting results. For example look at what Dell has accomplished by this method- I remember it was not long ago when a PC had to be made by IBM to be called a PC-Not anymore.
I remember seeing pics of the first IBM Clone manufactured by Compaq. They still suck.
Which brings me to a question.. HOW ON EARTH has compaq made it?! Crapola companies like Packard Bell didn't make it... WHY Compaq?! I guess probably cause they aquired DEC-which is the biggest dissapointment of the previous decade.
-MP Jesse
Packard Bell are still going, Acer should just close and never make pc's ever again
So ..
The bottom line is you want AMD to pay for your colaboration on selling their stuff, ain´t it?
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
yep the only thing I have ever seen from acer that is any good is a monitor and that's just badged....as for packard bell i don't think we have to even start on that subject do we.....
M
UK Prices are <font color=red>toooooooooo</font color=red> high , keep competition going to bring em down
Ya thats it. I want AMD to start paying me for pushing their products?
It probably has nothing to do with me giving out v.good reliable advice to family/friends/business associates etc. about which company is the more logical and economical choice. Cause I tell you most of the well off persons I know don't blow there money on expensive crap when there is a smarter more economical alternative(especially when you are buying say 10 -20 computers at a time) - unless they are suckers and they usually don't stay well-off for long if they are.
Just so that you can understand the finer points of the post. Just for you lord.
I am just explaining to tom(if he even reads posts?) and the many other intelligent members in the forum (of which you are obviously not one) that his effect on people is far more reaching than he forsees. The examples I use are to reinforce that statement.
Plus if I were to get paid I probably would not work for AMD because Intel would pay me more to frequent Message boards all day and spread white propoganda sort of what meltdown, fugger etc. do but I would get paid for it.
If anyone at intel would like to employ me, I would probably take the job(as long as it pays well) cause I could justify spewing NONSENSE all day long about how "Intel products are superior and AMD products are flawed" because they would be paying me not because I necessarily believe it.
Here is another chance for you to up your post count. Please answer in several one word posts that way you will get that much closer to becoming an old hand or a numble knuckle.
"It probably has nothing to do with me giving out v.good reliable advice to family /friends/business associates etc"
Man, you´re so full of it!
I shouldn´t even bother myself with an [-peep-] like yourself!
You seem to be even worse than AMDMeltdown!
As much wrong he can be about his crap, at least he has a goal for the way he act!
You, on the other hand , spit crap just for the sake of it!
Neither Intel or AMD needs to pay you for writting nonsense, because you already write it for free!
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
Oh!
About my post account?
Who cares what you think!?
If you don´t understand what we do over here in this section
i´m not the one who´s going to explain it to you!
Maybe you should ask mommy and daddy!
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
Packard Bell was bought out by NEC which still makes computers, I think. So I guess you could say they are still around.
Compaq was just this month passed by Dell as the number one computer seller. It has nothing to do with quality. It has to do with the fact that they are in every computer-related store like Best Buy, Office Depot, CompUSA, and even RadioShack. And in general, older people (over the age of 30) didn't like to buy off the internet or from an ad in a magazine.
When my parents asked my advice on what computer to buy, I told them Dell, but they were very uneasy about it, they wanted to get a computer (like Compaq or HP) from the local store that they could see first hand and take home with them right away. This is the reason compaq has stayed ahead for so long. Only now are things changing because more people are getting comfortable buying off the internet.
Also, most business, 5 years ago and earlier, bought Compaq. I remember going through old junk rooms here at work and seeing all these old Compaqs.
-Gimme oysters and beer for dinner everyday of the year and I'll feel fine.
<i>No one</i> is worse than AMD Meltdown.
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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
Hey lord whatever I see that you are delusional again. You are now a spokesman for both Intel and AMD. Maybe tomorrow you can sail the seven seas with Sinbad.
If you can read this properly (which I doubt).. Nothing anybody says on message boards has much merit but please don't compare me to meltdown, my posts are not bullshit like yours and many of the other pre-pubescent boys.
If you think I am so full of it, then don’t bother posting to my posts. Oh and by the way its called confidence (not being so full of it) buy a six pack and get some. I didn't ask for you to post anything. I was making a statement that for most intelligent readers (unlike yourself) would read with proper understanding (unlike your earlier post) and consider. You obviously were just posting to increase your post count. My mistake was posting to your obvious stupid post, which incidentally was so far in left field that only a childs mind would have come to such conclusions.- I guess for someone like yourself it is hard to logically follow an argument or comment without having a via sux or Intel sux etc. in the sentence. What a simple mind- I am surprised you even know how to get online.
Please for future reference do not respond to any of my posts (although it is a free country and you can if you like). Oh if you find it hard to keep your nimble knuckles from typing away I think there are groups that can help you - forums anonymous. Your lack of intelligent posts is unfortunately irreversible since it has to do with your bad genetics and/or poor upbringing. Like you said you shouldn’t even bother yourself but I think you will, won’t you, simpleton.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by onipion on 02/25/01 05:06 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
It's people like you that make this board so full of crap. Starting flames, racial remarks, etc.
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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
Well griz, I don't think it is wise for you to start criticizing people about flaming. God knows you have been doing it for quite some time with meltdown and fugger.
Wasn't it just a little while ago when fugger called you out because of your remarks? Don't use me as a scapegoat for your own actions.
I stand by what I say if you don't like it, to bad. Lord is a poster child and his comments are so dumb that most don't bother responding, unfortunatly I did and for that I must waste my time and set him straight.
I prefer not to flame but some peoples remarks are so misguided that I try to put them straight- think of it as a public service.
Plus the other section is for other topics(including flames). Not just post accumulation, which you,lord,wussy are so fond of. So having heated discussions in the other section is normal and nothing out of the ordinary unless you are a saint.
Well, being an employee of Compaq I have to back them up
. First of all, I work on the Unix Development TEam (Tru64 Unix), not with the little compaqs that everyone bitches about. I worked with the 4-32 processor servers that compaq spits out, along with the operating system. I know that when Compaq sells one of their "bigger" machines for a million dollars (common knowledge), that they must be making some cash. The stock market value has been fluctuating... enough people still buy the "little compaqs" for that to be a profitable business. I actually worked at an old Dec site, it seems that this aquisiton is a major benefit for compaq. That and the pretty little Alpha's
In other words, there is a hell of a lot more to compaq than the crappy personal computers they sell
#Ranked <font color=blue>6 in US</font color=blue> 2v2 Cstrike# -Feb 7 OGL Ladder (well, it's one of the largest ladders)
Oooh! Touchy!
For you there´s the perfect group!
A S S H O L E S ANONYMOUS!
BTW, AMDMeltDown´s the one that should be offended to be
compared to you!
Another thing! It´s your better sugestion yet ( The only one in fact!)!
I won´t reply your crapy posts anymore!
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
Please notice, opinion, I said <i>starting</i> flames. Not flaming. Meldown or Fugger come into my posts and start to flame, so naturally I flame back. I didn't mean to be offensive. If you don't think what you did was flaming, then you need a C.A.T. scan.
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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
Griz I know you have your hands full replying to every post in every section.
If you would read this thread thoroughly you would see that the person who started really flaming is none other than Lord. I just responded in kind.
I do start them sometimes. I do not deny(refer to my earlier post as to why) that but in this case it was started by it.
Actually when I go back and read I find it's you who started the flaming, but I don't want to continue so I won't.
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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
?!?! Packard Bell got bought out a long time ago. I can't remember who bought them, but when they did they killed the name.
-MP Jesse
I think it was Dell or Hewlett-Packard!
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
I'm not going to argue that the Compaq's equiped with DEC stuff is crap. I'm primarily talking about their little crapola 667mhz value computers. What the hell did Compaq do before they aquired DEC?!
I saw a pair of crusty DEC servers the other day- they were running an automated robot courier system in a hospital- it was pretty cool. These suckers were old but still kickin.
-MP Jesse
Just found out it was NEC
-MP Jesse
hey, whoa! slow down now, the ppl that buy "10 - 20 computers at a time" are probably buying dual workstations, (which the amd solution can not offer)these ppl are not suckers!
the ppl who run Win2k on a single cpu machine, well.....ah, you know what you are!
People buying 10 - 20 computers at a time could be buying for a school, or university as well.
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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
DEC?!! Digital Equipment Corporation. They made/make the best crap around. The used to make the Alpha- which is where AMD got the Athlon's bus from.
-MP JEsse
Are you guys illiterate?
I posted a while ago in this very thread that Packard Bell was bought out by NEC. Are you guys ignoring me or do you just scroll to the bottom and read the very last thing posted?
-Gimme oysters and beer for dinner everyday of the year and I'll feel fine.
Yes- but it was in a different topic i think. I was trying to explain to someone that it was NEC not DEC.
-MP Jesse
Amd puppies will never accept the fact that AMD has "Hand me down" technology, taken from DEC and given to AMD by none other than the FTC.
I see both sides clearly, but I love to stick it to these hypocritical "amd puppies" yeah!
Well, looks like another brainless post from Meltdown! All you had to do was wonder over to amd.com and take a quick look, stupid. AMD has many things they invented first, were as Intel has many things they didn't invent but they are using. So next time please at least research for 1 minute before you come posting with that itchy trigger finger of yours. (not relating to weapons, of course, just the mouse
)
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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?
Well, the mouse can be a weapon if you use it right! :-D
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
Yeah, like this one time when I was playing a game on the net, i was in the far corner of the map and then someone snuck up behind me and shot at me, the bullet hit right beside me but was so loud that I threw the mouse and hit my cat.
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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.
Woah!!! Pot calling the kettle black! Intel does the SAME thing my friend. Except, they do it by buying into the companies so they have patent rights on all the technology of the company they bought... IE: Rambus.
-MP Jesse
Intel did not invent USB. AGP I won't argue with. But as far as CPU technology, Intel just buys other companies out... JUST LIKE M$.
-MP Jesse
No [-peep-], that would be cool.
-MP Jesse
OK, wanna know the real reason Intel has the ability to buy out everyone and come out with the neat little interfaces and gadgets we all could not live without. ADVERTISING TO SIMPLETONS. Thats right! I see it all the time! This guy I work with says to me "I just got a great system man! A Compaq Presario w/Intel Celery processor!" And yes he actually said celery. This from a guy who thinks the entire PC tower is the modem. Awfully big modem. I believe if more than half the ppl who own PCs were somewhat computer literate, AMD would be doing much better than they are now.
<font color=green> I LOVE INTEL. It tastes like chicken </font color=green>
How could you!!!! They're BLUE! BLUE little evil Intel men. They go from door to door to all the brainwashed consumers saying "Buy the P4, Buy the P4, Intel Inside! Intel Inside! 1.5 GHZ, 1.5 GHZ!" BTW wusy, did you know Rambus is going to debut their new marketing icon! Three little blue lawyers w/little briefcases to fight off all the lawsuits
<font color=green> I LOVE INTEL. It tastes like chicken </font color=green>
Packard bell say they merged with NEC, so i guess we have to take thier word for it
They're called the Blue Man Group and Intel hired and paid them as well! BOOOO
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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.
If the blue don´t exist , you can always count on
the green little guys from Mars! :-D
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
no, those stupid little dumbass guys that were advertising for the PEntium2. you konw, they wear those stupid atomic protection suits or something.
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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.
hey wusy get off the "I hate Intel" bandwagon!
be a leader not a follower.
"Amd does not suck!, Amd users do!"
BE A LEADER!!! Hey man listen to your own advise. You do relize that the very company you spend all your time bragging about and supporting on this forum cares nothing about you but the $$$ you give them. Its cool that you buy Intel and it works for you. Lighten up and some fun with us.
<font color=green> I LOVE INTEL. It tastes like chicken </font color=green>
macintosh sucks crap
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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.
Right on!!
Apple/Macinttosh sucks!!Apple/Macinttosh sucks!!
Apple/Macinttosh sucks!!
Apple/Macinttosh sucks!!
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
APMAC BLOWS APMAC BLOWS
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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.
Well, i like my food well COOKED!
Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone
we dont give a damn. I dont buy computers to run photoshop. im a <i>gamer</i>
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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.
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