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Anonymous
December 13, 2004 3:25:57 PM

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I have a newish Dell computer. And an oldish Dell computer.

Both work fine, but the demands of the new bloated software finally
forced me to buy the "newish" computer about a year ago.

It's a general family computer. Used for everything from household
accounting to homework to gaming (the kids, not me).

Anyway, Son1 claims the computer is "too slow." Don't really agree.
But, I would be willing to take the memory card from my old Dell and
add it to my new Dell. Apparently the RAM cards are the same type, as
far as I can tell from looking at the manuals.

Is there a reason not to do this, other than to spend money to help
Michael Dell, Crucial, or whatever other retailer one normally buys
these things from?

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Anonymous
December 13, 2004 11:40:33 PM

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Not compatible-ish...

<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:1102969557.762848.235240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>I have a newish Dell computer. And an oldish Dell computer.
>
> Both work fine, but the demands of the new bloated software finally
> forced me to buy the "newish" computer about a year ago.
>
> It's a general family computer. Used for everything from household
> accounting to homework to gaming (the kids, not me).
>
> Anyway, Son1 claims the computer is "too slow." Don't really agree.
> But, I would be willing to take the memory card from my old Dell and
> add it to my new Dell. Apparently the RAM cards are the same type, as
> far as I can tell from looking at the manuals.
>
> Is there a reason not to do this, other than to spend money to help
> Michael Dell, Crucial, or whatever other retailer one normally buys
> these things from?
>
Anonymous
December 13, 2004 11:40:34 PM

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He's probably right, but actual model numbers of both computers would let us
answer for sure.

Tom
"WSZsr" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Not compatible-ish...
>
> <timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:1102969557.762848.235240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>I have a newish Dell computer. And an oldish Dell computer.
>>
>> Both work fine, but the demands of the new bloated software finally
>> forced me to buy the "newish" computer about a year ago.
>>
>> It's a general family computer. Used for everything from household
>> accounting to homework to gaming (the kids, not me).
>>
>> Anyway, Son1 claims the computer is "too slow." Don't really agree.
>> But, I would be willing to take the memory card from my old Dell and
>> add it to my new Dell. Apparently the RAM cards are the same type, as
>> far as I can tell from looking at the manuals.
>>
>> Is there a reason not to do this, other than to spend money to help
>> Michael Dell, Crucial, or whatever other retailer one normally buys
>> these things from?
>>
>
>
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Anonymous
December 14, 2004 12:21:11 AM

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<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:1102969557.762848.235240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I have a newish Dell computer. And an oldish Dell computer.
>
> Both work fine, but the demands of the new bloated software finally
> forced me to buy the "newish" computer about a year ago.
>
> It's a general family computer. Used for everything from household
> accounting to homework to gaming (the kids, not me).
>
> Anyway, Son1 claims the computer is "too slow." Don't really agree.
> But, I would be willing to take the memory card from my old Dell and
> add it to my new Dell. Apparently the RAM cards are the same type, as
> far as I can tell from looking at the manuals.
>
> Is there a reason not to do this, other than to spend money to help
> Michael Dell, Crucial, or whatever other retailer one normally buys
> these things from?

You will probably find that the memory in the older computer is not
compatible with the newer machine.

You really need to say what model each computer is though, before anyone
could offer any help.

Alternatively you could go here http://www.crucial.com/ and put in the
details of each computer in turn to see what kind of memory they need. If
both need the same you are in business, otherwise.... :-(

John
Anonymous
December 14, 2004 1:45:13 AM

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Right now we have a Dell Dimension 4600 with 256MB RAM. The old one is
a Dimension 4100, which has 128MB RAM.

Son1 complains about gaming. Someone mentioned the Video Card. Not sure
what is in the 4600, the 4100 has 32MB NVIDA TNT2 M64 APG, whatever
that is. Is there a way to check the card on the 4600 without opening
it?
Anonymous
December 14, 2004 2:02:41 AM

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General family computers have a habit of getting clogged up by all sorts of
spyware, adware, malware, trojans, and other mischievious demons that hog
processor cycles and make a system run slower than expectations.

First, do a file cleanup and remove all the useless files left behind by poorly
written software, especially Microsoft's. The Windows temp folder is the place
where a lot of thes files end up, and once it gets loaded down with a lot of
files, system performance gets pretty bad.

Next, defragment the hard drive.

Next, download and install both SpyBot and Ad-Aware SE, allow them both to
update their definitions, then run them (in either order). Whatever they
identify as suspicious, allow them to remove it from your newish computer. Odds
are pretty good the computer will run more like when it was newer and faster and
not infested with the junk.

Next, look up the specs on both computers and see what memory was installed at
the factory. Chances are memory is not compatible between the two, but you'll
never know until you try to find out. Or post the models of the Dell boxes
here.

Finally, if the newish Dell was delivered with the low-ball 128MB of system
memory often found in its on-sale models a few months ago, run, don't walk, to
buy a memory upgrade. 128MB sux for Windows XP. Period.

.... Ben Myers

On 13 Dec 2004 12:25:57 -0800, timbirr@mailcity.com wrote:

>I have a newish Dell computer. And an oldish Dell computer.
>
>Both work fine, but the demands of the new bloated software finally
>forced me to buy the "newish" computer about a year ago.
>
>It's a general family computer. Used for everything from household
>accounting to homework to gaming (the kids, not me).
>
>Anyway, Son1 claims the computer is "too slow." Don't really agree.
>But, I would be willing to take the memory card from my old Dell and
>add it to my new Dell. Apparently the RAM cards are the same type, as
>far as I can tell from looking at the manuals.
>
>Is there a reason not to do this, other than to spend money to help
>Michael Dell, Crucial, or whatever other retailer one normally buys
>these things from?
>
Anonymous
December 14, 2004 2:06:46 AM

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Gosh, I'm so proud, figured out the video card myself on this 4600
NVIDA GeForce FX 5200
Anonymous
December 14, 2004 6:51:14 AM

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I have a Dim4600, so you are probably using WinXP on it. You should have at least 512 MB of RAM on that PC. This is why Son1 is complaining about the gaming speed. If on the 4100 you are also using WinXP, again I would have at least 512 MB of RAM on that PC. That is just my own personal experience with WinXP on Dells.

Also you should install, and then run a spyware program such as Ad-Aware or SpyBot, on a regular basis, on your PC's.

--

Rich/rerat

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<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:1103006713.485326.144870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Right now we have a Dell Dimension 4600 with 256MB RAM. The old one is
a Dimension 4100, which has 128MB RAM.

Son1 complains about gaming. Someone mentioned the Video Card. Not sure
what is in the 4600, the 4100 has 32MB NVIDA TNT2 M64 APG, whatever
that is. Is there a way to check the card on the 4600 without opening
it?
Anonymous
December 14, 2004 7:40:20 AM

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The memory is not interchangeable.

The 4100 badly needs more memory. The 4600 would benefit from more memory.
Neither has an adequate video card for gaming.

Tom
<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:1103006713.485326.144870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Right now we have a Dell Dimension 4600 with 256MB RAM. The old one is
> a Dimension 4100, which has 128MB RAM.
>
> Son1 complains about gaming. Someone mentioned the Video Card. Not sure
> what is in the 4600, the 4100 has 32MB NVIDA TNT2 M64 APG, whatever
> that is. Is there a way to check the card on the 4600 without opening
> it?
>
Anonymous
December 14, 2004 3:36:45 PM

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Run some spyware removal programs, Delete the temp internet files cache
and clean up your email cache. Defrag the drives.
Then tell Son1 that IF the machine is slow to go to Dell.com and order
whatever NEW computer HE CAN AFFORD TO BUY, then he can do whatever he
would like.


--
Steve Williams



<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:1102969557.762848.235240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I have a newish Dell computer. And an oldish Dell computer.
>
> Both work fine, but the demands of the new bloated software finally
> forced me to buy the "newish" computer about a year ago.
>
> It's a general family computer. Used for everything from household
> accounting to homework to gaming (the kids, not me).
>
> Anyway, Son1 claims the computer is "too slow." Don't really agree.
> But, I would be willing to take the memory card from my old Dell and
> add it to my new Dell. Apparently the RAM cards are the same type, as
> far as I can tell from looking at the manuals.
>
> Is there a reason not to do this, other than to spend money to help
> Michael Dell, Crucial, or whatever other retailer one normally buys
> these things from?
>




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Anonymous
December 14, 2004 6:31:31 PM

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The Dimension 4100 can accept up to 2 sticks of 256MB low-density PC133 168-pin
SDRAM DIMMs. Doubling the memory would help.

The Dimension 4600 uses some sort of DDR DIMMs. I have to check exactly what
they are.

Clearly, no interchange of memory is possible between the two, as they are of
different generations of technology.

The Dimension 4100 is probably unsuitable for most modern video games, no matter
how much memory it has and what sort of video card it has. The slower Pentium 3
does not have enough oomph (high tech term) to push all the pixels out to the
graphics subsystem quickly.

Kicking the Dimension 4600 up to 512MB minimum as suggested elsewhere is a great
idea. For gaming on the 4600, I defer to the gamers in this newsgroup for
recommended graphics cards. You can spend all sorts of bucks just on graphics
cards, up to $400 at our local Best Buy. Value, as always, in the eye of the
beholder... Ben Myers

On 13 Dec 2004 22:45:13 -0800, timbirr@mailcity.com wrote:

>Right now we have a Dell Dimension 4600 with 256MB RAM. The old one is
>a Dimension 4100, which has 128MB RAM.
>
>Son1 complains about gaming. Someone mentioned the Video Card. Not sure
>what is in the 4600, the 4100 has 32MB NVIDA TNT2 M64 APG, whatever
>that is. Is there a way to check the card on the 4600 without opening
>it?
>
Anonymous
December 14, 2004 8:56:19 PM

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In article <1102969557.762848.235240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
timbirr@mailcity.com says...

> I have a newish Dell computer. And an oldish Dell computer.
>
> Both work fine, but the demands of the new bloated software finally
> forced me to buy the "newish" computer about a year ago.
>
> It's a general family computer. Used for everything from household
> accounting to homework to gaming (the kids, not me).
>
> Anyway, Son1 claims the computer is "too slow." Don't really agree.

<snippety>

"Too slow" is way too vague a problem description. It could be
memory issues, hardware issues, application issues -- or it could be
that you've got a few dozen (or more) spyware/adware programs hogging
system resources, and probably spewing your personal info to God knows
who.

The FIRST thing I do when I get a complaint of "slow system" is to
install, update, and run SpyBot Search & Destroy and AdAware Pro. Then,
after cleaning up anything they detect, I see how slow (or not) the
system still is.

I would suggest doing the same.

> But, I would be willing to take the memory card from my old Dell and
> add it to my new Dell. Apparently the RAM cards are the same type, as
> far as I can tell from looking at the manuals.

If that's the case, I don't see any reason they wouldn't work.
However, I cannot say for sure without examining the specs myself.

As for where to buy extra memory, Crucial or other reputable
third-party suppliers seem to do just fine. No need to pay Dell's
inflated prices.

Keep the peace(es).


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"
Anonymous
December 14, 2004 11:40:32 PM

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The 5200 is a good video card for general use, unfortunately it's not good
for games. Son1 will keep complaining until a better video card is
installed.

<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:1103008006.616845.224060@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Gosh, I'm so proud, figured out the video card myself on this 4600
> NVIDA GeForce FX 5200
>
!