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scrote wrote:
> I had been looking at this ruling:
>
> Heidelberg Castle, Germany: Heidelberg Castle may not be tapped "in
> response" to any instant effect (because all effects in V:TES are
> instantaneous except for actions and certain combat effects). [LSJ]
>
> I thought that seeing as HC required specific card-text to prevent it
> "interrupting" an action,
>
> "Heidelburg Castle may not be used during an action (including during
> combat). [RTR 19980707] "
>
> ,that buring a vial of elder vitae during a Vast Wealth action would be
> perfectly acceptable.
No, you're conflating two issues.
#1: All effects are instantaneous. With the exception of the various
"cancel as played" effects (Direct Intervention, Sudden Reversal,
Watenda's ability, etc), the moment a card is played, it takes effect.
There's no "interrupt" mechanism like in Magic.
Heidelburg Castle has specific text saying it can't be used during an
action, which is _another_ restriction. To take a counter example, if
someone is attempting to Far Mastery an untapped War Ghoul, it is legal
to tap the War Ghoul _during the action_ to burn it and a location (War
Ghoul text). Heidelburg Castle cannot be tapped during an action (due
to its text), and it also can't be tapped "during" the playing of a card
-- eg, you cannot tap Heidelburg Castle when someone plays Golconda on
one of your vampires to transfer blood/equipment/etc and then let
Golconda take effect. Once the Golconda has been played, it needs to be
resolved before the next effect.
> Compare to burning a blood tears in combat to prevent damage or gain
> blood. Isn't combat still part of the action? What's is the timing
> difference between combat and the point of a Vast Wealth action at
> which I locate my equipment?
Moot. Difference between "action" and "effect". Actions contain many
effects; effects cannot be interrupted (except by cancel as played cards.)
> Is it acceptable, on one blood and equipped with Blood Tears, to
> attempt:
>
> Govern the Unaligned
> Pay for an Elder Impersonation in response to block attempt
> Blockers Decline/Fail
> Burn Blood Tears
> Resolve GtU
Yes.
> Is yes, then how does this burning a Vial of Elder Vitae during a Vast
> Wealth Action?
You can burn a Vial of Elder Vitae during the Vast Wealth action.
You cannot wait to see what Vast Wealth produces, and then burn the Vial
of Elder Vitae to have the appropriate Discipline. Once the VW is
successful and you have found the first equipment, that effect is done;
it can't be interrupted by burning the Vial.
So, if, eg, you know that all of the equipment in your deck is Vials and
Baleful Dolls, you can Vast Wealth, and, before resolution, burn a Vial
to gain Necromancy. If the Vast Wealth then turns up a Baleful Doll,
you're good; if it turns up another Vial, well, you wasted your Vial.
--Colin McGuigan
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