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Anonymous
May 5, 2005 7:28:44 PM

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This is one of the two Continental Qualifiers that will be held in
Spain this year. Note that both tournaments are mutually exclusive,
i.e., the players who participate in one of them will not be
allowed to participate in the other.

The players willing to participate in any of the two Spanish CQ's
will have to prove their identity by showing their ID cards or
passports to the tournament officials at the event registration
desk.

SPANISH CONTINENTAL QUALIFIER: MARTORELL 2005

Event Date: Saturday, the 14th of May, 2005
Event venue: Ca n'Oliveras
Address: C/Josep Tarradellas, 11 (Martorell - 08760)
(Martorell is a city close to Barcelona)
Event format: constructed
# of rounds: 3+F
Time limit: 2 hrs/round
Registration start: 10:00 am
Event start: 11:00 am

Entry fee: 10 euros

For further information about this event, please, click here:

http://www.vtes.net/novedades/EQ05.asp

....or email me to: damnansvtes(at)ono(dot)com


Note: The other Spanish Continental Qualifier will be held in Madrid,
on the 9th of October, 2005 (the event date is not final yet).

--
Damnans

http://www.almadrava.net/damnans
http://www.vtes.net
http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/vteshispania/
Anonymous
May 6, 2005 2:46:09 PM

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Damnans wrote:
> This is one of the two Continental Qualifiers that will be held in
> Spain this year. Note that both tournaments are mutually exclusive,
> i.e., the players who participate in one of them will not be
> allowed to participate in the other.

Why are they mutually exclusive?

Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp
Anonymous
May 7, 2005 8:34:47 PM

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X_Zealot@cox-internet.com wrote:

> Damnans wrote:
>
>>This is one of the two Continental Qualifiers that will be held in
>>Spain this year. Note that both tournaments are mutually exclusive,
>>i.e., the players who participate in one of them will not be
>>allowed to participate in the other.
>
>
> Why are they mutually exclusive?

So that players just have one opportunity to qualify in Spain
for the Continental Championships.


--
Damnans

http://www.almadrava.net/damnans
http://www.vtes.net
http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/vteshispania/
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Anonymous
May 7, 2005 8:34:48 PM

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> So that players just have one opportunity to qualify in Spain
> for the Continental Championships.

Why is that important? Wouldn't you think that would lower your
participation. Doesn't that seem counter-intuitive?


--
Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp
Anonymous
May 8, 2005 1:21:14 AM

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XZealot wrote:
>>So that players just have one opportunity to qualify in Spain
>>for the Continental Championships.
>
>
> Why is that important? Wouldn't you think that would lower your
> participation. Doesn't that seem counter-intuitive?


Well, so far players have only had one chance to qualify in
their respective countries for the Continental Championships (except
for those living in big countries such as the USA, Canada, etc.)

And I do not think this system would lower our participation, since
the problem with many Spanish players is that they do not travel to
other cities to play V:TES (for various reasons).

Note that the V:TES Community in Spain is very polarized in two of
the biggest domains in the world (Barcelona and Madrid), so when
a Continental Qualifier is held in one of these cities, the
participation of the players living in the other big domain is
very poor, and viceversa.

That is why we consider that splitting the Spanish CQ in two
separate and mutually exclusive events should increase participation,
since it will allow the two major player communities in Spain
to have a CQ in their own city.

--
Damnans

http://www.almadrava.net/damnans
http://www.vtes.net
http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/vteshispania/
Anonymous
May 8, 2005 7:04:23 AM

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The splitting of the spanish qualifier is IMO absolutely
counterproductive to all what qualifiers and championships try to do.
They want to bring the VTES community on a larger scale together.
Traveling and playing with players from different and far away playing
groups is the core of the qualifier system. You have started a
splippery slope that could end in every playing group having its own
exclusive qualifier, not longer playing with others. That would
increase the participation to the extreme without any benefit for the
connection of the players. Instead of organising a second event, it
would be better if the spanish princes would organise the trip to the
city of the qualifier.
Anonymous
May 9, 2005 1:30:22 AM

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x5mofr@gmx.de wrote:
> The splitting of the spanish qualifier is IMO absolutely
> counterproductive to all what qualifiers and championships try to do.

We do not know yet :-)

> They want to bring the VTES community on a larger scale together.

This happens in the Spanish National Championship, which is a single
annual event.

> Traveling and playing with players from different and far away playing
> groups is the core of the qualifier system.

This should still happen with 2 Spanish Continental Qualifiers. But
we will see.

> You have started a
> splippery slope that could end in every playing group having its own
> exclusive qualifier, not longer playing with others.

This is not likely to happen in Spain (the second country in the world
with the most V:TES players), since both Madrid and Martorell (Barcelona)
should draw many players from their surrounding regions.

> That would
> increase the participation to the extreme without any benefit for the
> connection of the players. Instead of organising a second event, it
> would be better if the spanish princes would organise the trip to the
> city of the qualifier.

Those trips will still be organized (except for the players in Madrid
or Barcelona, of course), since there are more player communities in Spain:
Valencia, Córdoba, Palma de Mallorca, Logroño, Zaragoza, Sevilla, Bilbao,
Valladolid, Salamanca, etc.


--
Damnans

http://www.almadrava.net/damnans
http://www.vtes.net
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Anonymous
May 9, 2005 5:27:03 AM

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Probably you should also mention that organising a qualifier with all
the people at once (I guess 100+) can be a pain-in-the-ass, especially
when it comes down to having a location which is big enough.
!