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Just a handful of questions that I've had on my mind for months but
only now do I have a chance to actually post them!
#1. For effects that work "in combat", "during combat," or "once each
combat", does the minion have to actually be a participating member of
that combat?
Anathema
Choose a ready vampire. If the referendum is successful, put this card
on that vampire. If the vampire with this card is reduced to zero blood
in combat, he or she is burned, and the Methuselah controlling the
opposing minion gains pool equal to the burned vampire's capacity.
Lambach
Once each combat, Lambach may burn 1 blood to make the damage from his
hand strikes aggravated for the current round.
Jalan-Aajav
Once each round, Jalan may burn 1 blood to treat aggravated damage as
normal.
A. A non-participating vampire with Anathema is reduced to 0 blood
during combat (by playing Martyr's Resilience or Shared Strength). Does
Anathema trigger? Since these combat cards have text stating "Only
usable by a ready vampire not involved in combat", I'd argue that "not
involved in combat" means this does not occur "in combat." Is that
correct?
B. I control Lambach or Jalan-Aajav. During a combat between two
other minions, can I use Lambach or Jalan's special? (Might be done if
I want to reduce their blood or if I borrowed them via Temptation).
Common sense leads me to say no, but I can't find a ruling that
actually prevents them from doing so.
#2. Shared Nightmare
[chi] Choose one or two allies or younger vampires controlled by your
predator and/or prey. The chosen minions cannot block or cast votes for
the rest of the current minion phase.
[CHI] As above, but choose three allies or younger vampires.
Due to the "and/or", you can choose a minion controlled by your
predator and a minion controlled by your prey. However, the presence of
just an "or" and the absence of "and/or" implies that you cannot choose
a combination of allies and younger vampires. Is that correct? Thus you
can choose 3 allies. You can also choose 3 younger vampires. But you
cannot choose 1 ally and 2 youngers, or 2 allies and 1 younger?
#3. Normally cards have either a blood cost or a pool cost, not both.
For example, with Watenda's text, you are "burning an amount of blood
equal to the blood or pool cost of the card". If the opposing minion
plays a Burning Wrath or Mythic Form, you obviously have to pay the 3
blood cost and not the 0 pool cost.
However, what happens if there is both a pool cost *and* a blood cost?
A. Watenda is in combat with Rex. Rex's controller has a Chiram's
Hold with a Caseless Rounds on it. Rex wants to play a Caseless Rounds
on his shiny Assault Rifle. It thus costs 1 pool and 2 blood. Watenda
wants to use his special to cancel the card. How much blood does
Watenda need to burn?
B. Marie Faucigny wants to equip with a Polaris Coach from her
controller's ashheap via Filchware's Pawn Shop. The cost is 1 blood
*and* 1 pool. Can Marie's controller choose whether her special applies
to the blood or pool cost? My guess is yes.
Thanks!
- Eric Chiang
Just a handful of questions that I've had on my mind for months but
only now do I have a chance to actually post them!
#1. For effects that work "in combat", "during combat," or "once each
combat", does the minion have to actually be a participating member of
that combat?
Anathema
Choose a ready vampire. If the referendum is successful, put this card
on that vampire. If the vampire with this card is reduced to zero blood
in combat, he or she is burned, and the Methuselah controlling the
opposing minion gains pool equal to the burned vampire's capacity.
Lambach
Once each combat, Lambach may burn 1 blood to make the damage from his
hand strikes aggravated for the current round.
Jalan-Aajav
Once each round, Jalan may burn 1 blood to treat aggravated damage as
normal.
A. A non-participating vampire with Anathema is reduced to 0 blood
during combat (by playing Martyr's Resilience or Shared Strength). Does
Anathema trigger? Since these combat cards have text stating "Only
usable by a ready vampire not involved in combat", I'd argue that "not
involved in combat" means this does not occur "in combat." Is that
correct?
B. I control Lambach or Jalan-Aajav. During a combat between two
other minions, can I use Lambach or Jalan's special? (Might be done if
I want to reduce their blood or if I borrowed them via Temptation).
Common sense leads me to say no, but I can't find a ruling that
actually prevents them from doing so.
#2. Shared Nightmare
[chi] Choose one or two allies or younger vampires controlled by your
predator and/or prey. The chosen minions cannot block or cast votes for
the rest of the current minion phase.
[CHI] As above, but choose three allies or younger vampires.
Due to the "and/or", you can choose a minion controlled by your
predator and a minion controlled by your prey. However, the presence of
just an "or" and the absence of "and/or" implies that you cannot choose
a combination of allies and younger vampires. Is that correct? Thus you
can choose 3 allies. You can also choose 3 younger vampires. But you
cannot choose 1 ally and 2 youngers, or 2 allies and 1 younger?
#3. Normally cards have either a blood cost or a pool cost, not both.
For example, with Watenda's text, you are "burning an amount of blood
equal to the blood or pool cost of the card". If the opposing minion
plays a Burning Wrath or Mythic Form, you obviously have to pay the 3
blood cost and not the 0 pool cost.
However, what happens if there is both a pool cost *and* a blood cost?
A. Watenda is in combat with Rex. Rex's controller has a Chiram's
Hold with a Caseless Rounds on it. Rex wants to play a Caseless Rounds
on his shiny Assault Rifle. It thus costs 1 pool and 2 blood. Watenda
wants to use his special to cancel the card. How much blood does
Watenda need to burn?
B. Marie Faucigny wants to equip with a Polaris Coach from her
controller's ashheap via Filchware's Pawn Shop. The cost is 1 blood
*and* 1 pool. Can Marie's controller choose whether her special applies
to the blood or pool cost? My guess is yes.
Thanks!
- Eric Chiang
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