Need help with deck: Gang's Supressing Fire

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I'm trying to do a deck based in block denial with Suprresing Fire and
lots of guns, could you help me thin the deck out? it's currently 100
cards. And if you can comment, plz do so.


3 Volker 5
3 Rake 6
2 Black Cat
1 Theo Bell 7
1 Yuri, The Talon 4
1 Uma Hatch 3
1 Bianca 6
1 Angel 2
1 Dre, Leader of the Cold Dawn 3
1 Brachah

3 Celerity
3 Blood Doll
1 Warzone Hunting Ground
1 Tension in The Ranks
1 Fame
--9

4 Enchant Kindred
4 Legal Manipulation
4 Fourth Tradition
--12

3 Bewitching Oration
10 Suprresing Fire
--13

2 Brujah Justicar
3 Autarkis Persecution
--5

3 WWEF
7 2nd Tradition
--10

5 Saturday Night Special
5 .44 Magnum
--10

4 Arms Dealer

6 Concealed Weapon
7 Psyches
4 Pursuit
4 Blur
4 Thrown Sewer Lid
3 Flash
4 Sideslip
3 Projectile
2 Taste of Vitae
--37
 
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Omael wrote:
> I'm trying to do a deck based in block denial with Suprresing Fire and
> lots of guns, could you help me thin the deck out? it's currently 100
> cards. And if you can comment, plz do so.

I'd get rid of the 3 Bewitching Oration, the 5 Political Actions, and 2
arms dealers.

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"Omael" <omael.rangel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to do a deck based in block denial with Suprresing Fire and
> lots of guns, could you help me thin the deck out? it's currently 100
> cards. And if you can comment, plz do so.
>
>
> 3 Volker 5
> 3 Rake 6
> 2 Black Cat
> 1 Theo Bell 7
> 1 Yuri, The Talon 4
> 1 Uma Hatch 3
> 1 Bianca 6
> 1 Angel 2
> 1 Dre, Leader of the Cold Dawn 3
> 1 Brachah
>
Drop Dre and add Antionette Duchamp

> 3 Celerity
Drop 1 and add 1 Presence master. Superior Presence gains you pool in this
deck.

> 3 Blood Doll
> 1 Warzone Hunting Ground
> 1 Tension in The Ranks
> 1 Fame
> --9
If you have an Al's Army Apparatus, then I would add it as well as another
Fame and a Society of Leopold and a Effective Management. This comes to 13
masters.

> 4 Enchant Kindred
> 4 Legal Manipulation
> 4 Fourth Tradition
Drop these and add 4 Legal Manipulations.

> --12
>
> 3 Bewitching Oration
Drop all of these

> 10 Suprresing Fire
> --13
>
> 2 Brujah Justicar
> 3 Autarkis Persecution
> --5
Drop all of these, they just make the game longer
>
> 3 WWEF
> 7 2nd Tradition
Drop 2 and add 2 rooftop shadows
> --10
>
> 5 Saturday Night Special
Drop all of these

> 5 .44 Magnum
Add 4 of these
> --10
>
> 4 Arms Dealer
Drop all of these.
>
> 6 Concealed Weapon
Add 2 of these
> 7 Psyches
Drop 2 of these
> 4 Pursuit
> 4 Blur
> 4 Thrown Sewer Lid
Drop all of these
> 3 Flash
> 4 Sideslip
> 3 Projectile
> 2 Taste of Vitae
> --37
>
 
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"Omael" <omael.rangel@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<1117773727.464540.314400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
> I'm trying to do a deck based in block denial with Suprresing Fire and
> lots of guns, could you help me thin the deck out? it's currently 100
> cards. And if you can comment, plz do so.
>
>
> 3 Celerity
>
> 4 Enchant Kindred
> 4 Legal Manipulation
>
> 10 Suprresing Fire
>
> Brujah Justicar
>
> 7 2nd Tradition (some of these)
>
That's what I'd start to cut... I know that these cards take lot of
flavor from your deck, but...

-Jarkko
> --37
 
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On 2 Jun 2005 21:42:07 -0700, "Omael" <omael.rangel@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm trying to do a deck based in block denial with Suprresing Fire and
>lots of guns, could you help me thin the deck out? it's currently 100
>cards. And if you can comment, plz do so.

I'd say this is a deck well suited for Beretta goodness - provided you
have at least 10-12 of them to thrown in.

It's not that difficult to tone down this deck to 90 cards indeed:


>3 Volker 5
>3 Rake 6
>2 Black Cat
>1 Theo Bell 7
>1 Yuri, The Talon 4
>1 Uma Hatch 3
>1 Bianca 6
>1 Angel 2
>1 Dre, Leader of the Cold Dawn 3
>1 Brachah

Nice.

>3 Celerity
>3 Blood Doll
>1 Warzone Hunting Ground
>1 Tension in The Ranks
>1 Fame
>--9

I'm wondering how good some Brujah Debate would be in here, for the
maneuvers and extra votes (for defense only, see below).


>4 Enchant Kindred
>4 Legal Manipulation
>4 Fourth Tradition
>--12

Skip the Fourth Tradition; save precious actions. You can recoup blood
with Taste of Vitae.


>3 Bewitching Oration
>10 Suprresing Fire
>--13

I'm not sure that 3 Bewitching will help. I'd ditch out all
vote-related in this deck. If you just want votes for defense, Brujah
Debate is way better with this crypt and a bunch of 2nd Traditions.

I'm also not sure if 10 Supressing Fire are needed. I've ran a deck
with 8 guns and 8 Supressing and ended up discarding the first two or
three copies I had. This deck is more focused on gunslingers, so I
think that 8 is a good number.


>2 Brujah Justicar
>3 Autarkis Persecution
>--5

Forget about these. Even if you insist on playing poolgain votes, swap
the Autarkis for Consanguineous Boon. Even if you have no vote lock,
you'll always be able to "trade" a later Con Boon for votes in yhe
first one you call for yourself.


>3 WWEF
>7 2nd Tradition
>--10
>
>5 Saturday Night Special
>5 .44 Magnum
>--10

Now, Beretta or not Beretta? That's the question...
If Beretta, swap all of these guns for it.
If not Beretta, go all .44 Magnum. If you're going for diversity, add
1 or 2 Sniper Rifles to your Prince. 2nd Tradition + Sniper = less
cards used in combat.


>4 Arms Dealer

Even if you intend on using him, no need for 4 copies. Diversify
including Al Army's Aparatus. Or just raise the total of guns to 12
and leave the gun-grabbing out of the picture.


>6 Concealed Weapon

A little more. Put the number of these as close to the number of guns
as possible. How about 8?

>7 Psyches
>4 Pursuit
>4 Blur
>4 Thrown Sewer Lid

No need for these. You won't get a press since only Theo Bell has POT,
and you risk drawing these during a close-range combat or after a
Drawing Out of the Beast when you really need a Sideslip. Not worth in
this deck.


>3 Flash
>4 Sideslip
>3 Projectile
>2 Taste of Vitae
>--37

Try to raise the number of Tastes right now. At least 6.


I'd go with something like this:

Crypt:
>3 Volker 5
>3 Rake 6
>2 Black Cat
>1 Theo Bell 7
>1 Yuri, The Talon 4
>1 Uma Hatch 3
>1 Bianca 6
>1 Angel 2
>1 Dre, Leader of the Cold Dawn 3
>1 Brachah

Masters:
>3 Celerity
>3 Blood Doll
>1 Warzone Hunting Ground
>1 Tension in The Ranks
>1 Fame
> 2 Brujah Debate
> 1 Al Army's Aparatus
>--12

Actions:
>4 Enchant Kindred
>4 Legal Manipulation
>--8

Action Modifiers:
>8 Suprresing Fire
>--8

Reactions:
>3 WWEF
>7 2nd Tradition
>--10

Equipment:
>12 Beretta 9mm
>--12

Ally:
>1 Arms Dealer
>--1

Combat:
>8 Concealed Weapon
>7 Psyches
>4 Pursuit
>4 Blur
>4 Flash
>4 Sideslip
>2 Projectile
>6 Taste of Vitae
>--39

best,

Fabio "Sooner" Macedo
V:TES National Coordinator for Brazil
Giovanni Newsletter Editor
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:18:40 -0300, "Fabio \"Sooner\""
<fabio_sooner@NOSPAMyahoo.com.br> wrote:

>>4 Fourth Tradition
>>--12
>
>Skip the Fourth Tradition; save precious actions. You can recoup blood
>with Taste of Vitae.

Oops. Sorry for the Tradition confusion.

Anyway, save blood and precious actions ;-)


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V:TES National Coordinator for Brazil
Giovanni Newsletter Editor
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I liked Fabio ideas, but also want to try a version with less combat, i
think a magnum can be a defensive permanent, and so maybe it will only
require
4 blur
5 Sideslip
6 Flash
Don't you think?
and maybe politics to bloat

4 Bewitching Oration
9 Suprresing Fire
--13

2 Brujah Justicar
2 Praxis Seizure
4 Autarkis Persecution
4 Kine Resources Contested
2 Parity Shift
--14

With no bleed cards.
 

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"Omael" <omael.rangel@gmail.com> wrote
> 3 Volker 5
> 3 Rake 6


> 3 Bewitching Oration
> 10 Suprresing Fire

Does Suppressing Fire tap the minion?
I know it's the focis of the deck but will -1 int make much difference? I
ask.

> 3 WWEF
> 7 2nd Tradition

Do you have enough princes/justicars to make the 2nds work?