Ati quality= Nvidia application, get it right

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It has been proven time and time again that Ati's quality mode is in now way comparable to Nvidias quality mode, as Nvidias quality has lower Iq and utilizes bilinear filtering, whilst Ati's quality has much better IQ and uses triliniear filtering, and yet you blame Ati for its quality naming schemes, yet Nvidia gets away with this crap all the time. In your next reviews please start using Nvidia's application setting when comparing it to Atis quality, no matter what Nvidia tells you what to do since they are obviously looking to win benchmarks which never compare IQ such as the ones i find on tomshardware
 

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I allready posted some comments on that here:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=346064#346064

As I said: You can´t really make an apples to apples comparsion here. NV Application has a better IQ than ATI´s Quality setting. So... what can you choose?

Remember in the times of Voodoo3. It offered only 16bit colors. It had a better IQ than NVIDIA´s GF 16bit, but GF2 was able to do 32bit. Something simmilar happened when V5 came out which offered a different FSAA than the NVIDIA cards. The only thing you can do then is to say that this is different. There were people which could live very good with the bad 16bit IQ of the GF compared to V3. Others were not. It´s up to you to choose what you want.

It´s the same like reviewing two cars. They are simply different and you have to write about it.

All new Anisotropic modes from NV and ATI are not real anisotropic filtering. They are some kind of ATI and NVIDIA anisotropic... optimized filtering but not real anisotropic. Both have different approaches. You can´t do real apples to apples comparsions. If NV descides to lower the quality to get better performance - well, that´s their descision - but in the conclusions they must read that ATI offers better IQ. The reader/buyer has to descide if he can live with that.

Well... if you decide to buy a card by only watching benchmark numbers it´s your own fault. If you read the text then you´ll see that I spoke about IQ several times. I compare what ATI calls Quality and what NVIDIA calls Quality - and I show which one offers better IQ.

Lars
 

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I bet Lars doesnt look forward to coming here.

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Wow ive never seen Lars post here.
Neways ill buy what he said. Either way (nv quality/ati quality) ati still wins the benchmarks, and as long as they make it clear that atis quality setting looks better (which they did) then its all good.

Long live ATI.
 

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In my company's informal tests, we find the Radeon 9700 Pro's image quality to be much better in a regular environment.

eBay, kick ass!

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first of all AMD_me thats a big fat DUH!
secondly, if you really do own or are part of a company involved in such things, and not just some pre-teen my wise and beautiful friend with dreams of actually having/doing that going to forums saying you are/do then YOUR COMPANY SUCKS and i hope it goes under:)

Long live ATI.
 

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Has anyone but me noticed that Willamette has become a FREAKIN' TYRANT since his status went up a notch?

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joo are a taRd mang

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Oh no!...I just made "Addict"....I hope I dont start talking like Willamette....

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NOOOOOOOOOooooo1!!! not you too!

*deletes old posts to keep count low*

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Thats right Phial....your next...

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LOL!
now its a race between me and gen to see who gets to the NEXT LEVEL first!
Gen likes to post alot of pointless stuff, or make 2 posts where 1 couldve said both, or you couldve edited an old one... so youll probly win.
Plus im on 56k:( I'd post more but it takes like 10 seconds to load every forum page so i cant post like mad:(
HAHA! cable will come soon! 2-3 months!
AMD_me = fargot.

www.somethingawful.com/jeffk

READ SOME OF THAT JUNK GEN! IT WILL MAKE YOU 1337!
Much of it is really very funny.

Long live ATI.
 

GeneticWeapon

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Will, I really dont want to be 1392, and I'll have you know that I'm dialing up at a blistering speed of 37000bps. In case your a complete retard, that's alot slower then 56k....

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