(LSJ) Black Sunrise + Eagle's Sight

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Can it be played ?

Sathriel

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lehrbuch wrote:
> sathriel@o2.pl wrote:
> Re: (LSJ) Black Sunrise + Eagle's Sight
>
>>Can it be played ?
>
>
> Sure. Black Sunrise can be followed by an inferior Eagle's Sight to get
> + 1 intercept.
>
> You can't, however, "wake" and attempt to block out of sequence using a
> combination of superior ES and superior BS alone. You need to play the
> superior ES first (to gain the ability to block), which means you
> aren't tapped, therefore you can't play superior BS.
>
> A sequence that does work is: Wake with Evening's Freshness, (Superior)
> Eagle's Sight, (Superior) Black Sunrise.

Correct.

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Dorrinal Blackmantle wrote:
> LSJ wrote:
>>lehrbuch wrote:
>>>A sequence that does work is: Wake with Evening's Freshness, (Superior)
>>>Eagle's Sight, (Superior) Black Sunrise.
>>
>>Correct.
>
> Eagle's Sight: Reaction, Auspex
> [aus] This reacting vampire gets +1 intercept.
> [AUS] This reacting vampire attempts to block the current action,
> ignoring the normal prey, predator or target restrictions for blocking
> actions.
>
> Since Eagle's Sight at [AUS] causes a block attempt, don't you lose the
> window in which to play Black Sunrise (to untap and attempt to block)?

No. You may attempt to block while attempting to block. It is
indeed difficult to do otherwise.

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On 7 Jul 2005 18:54:45 -0700, "Sigmund" <bjornstein@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I'm not sure I understand this.

The FAQ would help you.

Section 3.31, specifically.

http://www.thelasombra.com/vtes_faq.htm


> Is it any different from The Mole (ani)?

Not at all.

Nor is it different from Second Tradition, Speak with Spirits, Eternal
Vigilance, or Special Report.

You cannot play any of these cards if you are not eligible to block
the action.

>As I understand it, you can use it during any action to untap
>and attempt to block;

This understanding is completely incorrect.

If you are not an eligible blocker, you cannot play these cards to
untap and attempt to block.


>then if you can't block (because the acting minion doesn't
>belong to your predator or prey, for example), you
>simply remain untapped. Is that wrong?

Yes, it is wrong.
See above.










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Aha! Okay.

How about using The Mole to untap during an action you could legally
block, then failing because of lack of intercept?

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LSJ wrote:
> Dorrinal Blackmantle wrote:
> > LSJ wrote:
> >>lehrbuch wrote:
> >>>A sequence that does work is: Wake with Evening's Freshness, (Superior)
> >>>Eagle's Sight, (Superior) Black Sunrise.
> >>
> >>Correct.
> >
> > Eagle's Sight: Reaction, Auspex
> > [aus] This reacting vampire gets +1 intercept.
> > [AUS] This reacting vampire attempts to block the current action,
> > ignoring the normal prey, predator or target restrictions for blocking
> > actions.
> >
> > Since Eagle's Sight at [AUS] causes a block attempt, don't you lose the
> > window in which to play Black Sunrise (to untap and attempt to block)?
>
> No. You may attempt to block while attempting to block. It is
> indeed difficult to do otherwise.

Seems strange to me, but it's fair enough. Thank you for clarifying
that for me!

Dorrinal Blackmantle
Chronicler of Clan Tremere