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"LSJ" <vtesrepSPAM@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote in message
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> James Coupe wrote:
>
> > In message <42DEEC83.7000604@TRAPwhite-wolf.com>, LSJ
> > <vtesrepSPAM@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> writes:
> >
> >>But, as per conversations on the PoB, reports of the intuitiveness of
the
> >>situation have apparently been greatly exaggerated, as well.
> >
> >
> > If intuition could kick in and resolve card problems, I'd dispute the
> > rulings (way back when) on The Sleeping Mind.
>
> Kemintiri hardly reached the level of "needing to be cut down in the
> face of intuition" (not that, apparently it flew in the face of intuition
> as much as originally reported) as Sleeping Mind.
>
> > Reading card text (as with Kemintiri) tells you one thing but intuition
> > tells you what the card is trying to do (i.e. the express opposite of
> > what the legalistic ruling attempts to do).
>
> As you wish.
>
> > "Intuition" is not a good metric for abandoning card text, in general.
>
> Like for Cats' Guidance?
>
> That's the problem with black and white in a gray world -- there are
> always exceptions.
>
> In Kem's case, the players apparently have intuition enough to follow
> the letter of card text. My initial impression of the general player's
> intuition was mistaken. Therefore the reversal.
In the case of Kementiri I don't think the text implies the wider
interpretation originally proscribed, particularly when compared to Mata
Hari where the additional function is explicit, as Michael kindly pointed
out earlier.
Having said that, I think Kementiri would be a lot cooler if she *did* also
permit players to play cards requiring Ventrue or Justicars too. But I think
that for the sake of sanity that would require formal errata, and hopefully
a subsequent corrected printing of her in a future card set.
As far as intuition goes, my first thought was that Kementiri was perhaps
*supposed* to have been printed like Mata Hari but there had been an error
or cock-up at the printing stage. If this had been given as the reason for
the original ruling, I think people might have been slightly less perplexed.
Players of course use their intuition all the time when playing the game,
but in the absence of already-announced rulings and errata, the card text
itself
does have to take precedence. To suggest that players should feel free to
add their own spins on cards could lead to very wild and unsettling
variations of play, and this is something I'm sure we are all keen to avoid.
Regards,
Mike Nudd
VEKN Prince of London
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