Unlocking the 9500Pro

[GeneticWeapon]

The number one reason why I didnt want to buy a 9500Pro, was because ATi locked the clock speeds on those cards. I told myself I could live with the factory clock speeds enough times, that I convinced myself, and I bought the card. It sucks though when you see all of the reviews across the web showing what the card was capable of, if it was overclocked. Grape sent me 3DMark 03 in the mail from Canada, and it got to my house today...I was stoked. That is I WAS stoked until I benched my card with it. I'm not going to tell you the score I got because it wasnt that hot. Also, I have a pos Elitegroup mobo with ddr266 ram in it. Not even my Tbred Xp2100+ can help a mobo as sorry as this...thats the main reason my score was so low. Immediately after my first bench, I went to Rage3D and hooked up a bios that would fix my problem...a stock 9700 bios. The dood who helped me was a much smarter man than I, and gave me some good advice.(now I know what forums are for)I fuckking hate flashing video card bios's, especially when it's my own, but I must say, that it couldnt have gone smoother, I dumped my original bios to floppy, and the flash went off without a single error. The only disadvantage to this whole procedure is that now windows thinks my video card is a 9700Pro....I can live with that....My 3DMark 03 score is 3,792 <A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=749781" target="_new">http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=749781</A> and my 3DMark 01 score is close enough to 12,000 that I dont want to publish it yet...I need to tweak some more.
Thank you again Great Grape Ape....you are an asset to these forums and an awsome dood.

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[cdpage]

Im going to be puting together a system with the 9500Pro aswell...

Board: ASUS P4S8X
RAM: 2 x 512M of DDR333, cl of 2.5
CPU: INTEL Pentium4 2.4B
Vid: ATI 9500 Pro (Sapphire)
Floppy: 1.44M Floppy Drive
HD: WD 80G Hard (8M Buffer)
CD: LG 16X DVD ROM
CASE: MECCA (Mid Tower P4 420W)

what would say to this set up?

dah, has any body seen my paints? :redface:

 

[GeneticWeapon]

Very nice...without overclocking your card, you should get a much better score than I...

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[Twitch]

When are you gonna upgrade your platform?


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[GeneticWeapon]

Ummm....I'm trying to convince a buddy that has an Abit mobo to trade me for an MX440 I have in my desk...we'll see....

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[phial]

dude, Soltek nforce2, like 140 bucks canadian. AWESOME deal and one of the fastest/stablest for overclocking nforce2

get it!!!


oh yeah can you post your 3dmark01 compare url with the 9500pro?

wat im interested in, is that 8500's o'cd to about 300/300 have almost the same fill rate...


shouldnt the 9500pro be double for single texturing compared to an 8500, and the same for multi texturing givin the difference in teh pixel pipelines?

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[phial]

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectcompare&projectId=3708529&projectType=6&2k1=3708529" target="_new"> overclocked 8500 3dmark01... </A>


note the fill rate! i believe the 8500 is overclocked to 295/295 .. not 100% sure but i know it is overclocked. note especially the single texturing fill rate, because the 9500pro should theoretically be twice that , because of its 8x1 pipelines and the 8500 has 4x2

O.O!!!

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[GeneticWeapon]

Phial, I dont have an 01 score published yet, but I do know that my 9500Pro is getting roughly 3000 more points in that benchmark then my 8500LE running @ 300/300. What the theoretical fillrate difference is between the two, I'm not sure right now.

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[phial]

128 bit memory is probably the reason its the same. whats the benifit then of having 8 pipelines?

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[GeneticWeapon]

Here is my 8500LE score <A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6258104" target="_new">http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6258104</A>

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[GeneticWeapon]

Here is my 9500Pro's 2001SE score...it was alot higher earlier tonight..(been drinking) <A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6476493" target="_new">http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6476493</A>

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[phial]

yes,it is alot higher, BUt why the hell is the fill rate almost identicle?! it just doesnt make sense....*my brain!*


if you check out Apes thread, and compare his 9600pro to a 8500@300/300, they are very similar EXCEPT the pixel shading and bump mapping tests...

of course theres more too it that accounts for teh higher score..

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[Nights_L]

Wow, sounds good, here goes my 3Dmark2001:
3DMark Score 8959
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 138.7 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 51.2 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 146.4 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 82.0 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 129.4 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 58.8 fps
Game 4 - Nature 48.7 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 879.4 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2048.5 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 37.4 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 9.7 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping 115.5 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping 102.3 fps
Vertex Shader 93.1 fps
Pixel Shader 103.8 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader 86.7 fps
Point Sprites 26.1 MSprites/s

sorry about that, but I don't know how to make a link.. =P
I don't understand how could my score higher than GW, it seems that everything are slightly lower such as fill rate..
but anyway~
oh yeah, notice it's a 8500LE@275/250

 

[phial]

what motherboard/cpu/ram do u have with that card?

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[Nights_L]

I have an Athlon XP2000+, with MSI KT3 Ultra2 (KT333), PC2700@ DDR266@2/2/2/5
btw.. Phial, how's ur cd-writer problem goes?

and.. GeneticWeapon, how come your XP2100+ run at 1728Mhz? shouldn't it be 1733Mhz?