Nvidia Cheating With FX Drivers

"In our recent GeforceFX 5900 Ultra story, we noticed the Nvidia board was well ahead of ATI's Radeon 9800 Pro in Futuremark's 3DMark2003 benchmark, but the two boards were much more evenly matched in our GameGauge application benchmark suite.

We've just discovered certain test anomalies that indicate to us that Nvidia may be special-casing 3DMark2003, throwing away work, to attain higher scores.

We had thought, with the GeForceFX 5900 Ultra now out of the bag, that we were in for a bit of a post-launch lull. But as it turns out, things are just starting to get interesting.

We stated in our GeForceFX 5900 Ultra review that we found the 256MB 5900 Ultra's 3DMark03 results were faster than those delivered by the Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB card, while the 3D GameGauge scores of the two cards were more evenly matched. We found this somewhat odd, and attributed this disconnect to 3DMark03's using vertex and pixel shader code, whereas seven of the eight tests in 3D GameGauge do not..."

You can find the rest here:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1086025,00.asp
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  1. What again? Man that's Alot of cheating!


    Ya' might want to delete the repeat posts before the 'others' find out.

    They mostly come out at night; mostly. - Newt from <i>Aliens</i>.


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  2. Why are we at Tom's Hardware Community Forums always the last to hear of these rumors?


    <font color=green>The Netherlands is where you go when you're too good for heaven.</font color=green> :tongue:
  3. Alphabetical order?

    Anandtech, Beyond/Bjorn, Chip, Digit-life, Extreme, [H]ard, Inquirer, Rage3D, Techreport..

    Maybe we should call it "ALL that's THOM's..." Then we'd be FIRST to know!


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  4. It's one thing to post old news...but he posted it twice!!....

    <font color=red>120% ATi Fanboy!</font color=red>
    <font color=red>3DMark 2001SE</font color=red>
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  5. Yeah that's why Twitch and I were having a little fun, and I warned him, delete it. I thought the Aliens quote was apt.

    PS thanks for posting hinegger's thread in Rage, ahh the brain of a halfwit, amazing. Yeah it's all THG's fault he's a dumbass.


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  6. Yes I thought hienniggers posts over there were hillarious. He's making up all kinds of computer difficulties with hardware he doesnt even own...He's telling everyone he soft modded a 9500 into a 9700, and needs help. His parents didnt give him enough attention growing up.

    <font color=red>120% ATi Fanboy!</font color=red>
    <font color=red>3DMark 2001SE</font color=red>
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  7. Quote:
    "ALL that's THOM's..."

    What the hell does that mean?

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  8. It's code for go sit on GeneticWeapons lap.....

    <font color=red>120% ATi Fanboy!</font color=red>
    <font color=red>3DMark 2001SE</font color=red>
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  9. I believe he has amnesia as well as a stutter and they bleed over into one another late at night.

    --You know, I think Paul Bryant was from the Netherlands.--

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  10. Alphabet my dear Eden.

    'All that's Thom's /Tom's Hardware' would come before Anandtech. That's all. Man Am I going to have to put a little note at the bottom of all my posts explaining things just for you? :tongue:


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  11. Eden needs his own legend. *

    Of course, Eden <i>is</i> a legend, so perhaps that's what causes his confusion.**


    *Special to Eden: That was known as a quip, a barb, a jest, or a witty slight. It was not meant to be taken seriously or cause offense.

    **Also a jest, a barb, or a witticism, though laced with a bit of sarcasm for completeness; also not meant to be taken seriously or to elicit anger.

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  12. Yes...but people get angry if "I" do it....

    <font color=red>120% ATi Fanboy!</font color=red>
    <font color=red>3DMark 2001SE</font color=red>
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  13. LOL, I thought my message sounded angry though I wasn't, dunno why I didn't edit it... :tongue:

    I still don't get the joke Ape tried to convey though...oh well...

    And yes, I AM A LEGEND! When I appear to you, that's just imagination... it's not the Matrix, but it's close!

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  14. Eden I was referring to why don't we get info first (it was Twitch's addition to our sarcastic debate), I said, alpahbetical order "Tom's Hardware guide" i so far down the list, after all of the above, so if we made it "All..." then it would come first. Get it now?
    Man I hate explaining jokes, it kills them, just kills 'em!

    As for cheating there's <A HREF="http://www.elitebastards.com/page.php?pageid=1343&head=1&comments=1" target="_new">THIS</A> new info I got from [H].


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