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Anonymous
September 9, 2005 2:10:09 AM

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Kindred,

I've always been fascinated by the wall strategy and having a penchant
for the uglies, I've tried my hand at making one starring the Nossies
and !Nossies.

Basic gameplay:
Get 3 vamps out, preferable two with for. Employ Raven Spies and/or Owl
Companions. Get Smiling Jack out and defend him.

ANI combat: Trap-DotB-Crows-Bats (press). Repeat. Prevent/Taste.

The Skin Mask will be used for tooling up, or in extreme cases, as a
source for intercept. Untaps with Guard Dogs and Cats' Guidance.

Should I junk one Owl for another Raven?
Add more Army of Rats?

Comments, please. TIA.


OW


Deck Name: Noz posse Rock-hard wall

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 18, Max: 28, Avg: 5.83)
----------------------------------------------
1 Shannon Price ani obf 3 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Calebros obf pot ANI 5 Nosferatu
1 Nigel the Shunned obf ANI POT 5 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Cicatriz ani obf pot 5 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Christanius Lionel pot ANI OBF 6 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Ox ANI OBF POT 6 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Gerard Rafin ani for OBF POT 6 Nosferatu
1 Alonzo Guillen ani for pot OBF 6 Nosferatu
4 Teresita for ANI OBF POT 7 Nosferatu
Antitribu

Library: (90 cards)
-------------------
Master (14 cards)
1 Information Network
1 Shanty Town Hunting Ground
1 KRCG News Radio
1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
1 Warning Sirens
4 Blood Doll
1 Rack, The
1 Nosferatu Kingdom
1 Obfuscate
1 Smiling Jack, The Anarch
1 Fortitude

Action (2 cards)
1 Shepherd`s Innocence
1 Army of Rats

Reaction (16 cards)
8 Cats` Guidance
8 Guard Dogs

Combat (40 cards)
4 Trap
6 Drawing Out the Beast
8 Aid from Bats
8 Carrion Crows
4 Taste of Vitae
2 Superior Mettle
2 Soak
2 Skin of Rock
2 Skin of Steel
2 Skin of Night

Retainer (9 cards)
6 Raven Spy
1 Murder of Crows
2 Owl Companion

Equipment (1 cards)
1 Changeling Skin Mask

Combo (8 cards)
8 Swallowed by the Night
Anonymous
September 9, 2005 10:13:27 AM

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Try this deck one based on yours. It has some more proactivity as it
will control better the table. Dreams of the Sphinx is essential in
your deck as it allows you to avoid hand jam sometimes.

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 18, Max: 28, Avg: 5.83)
----------------------------------------------
1 Shannon Price ani obf 3 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Calebros obf pot ANI 5 Nosferatu
1 Nigel the Shunned obf ANI POT 5 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Cicatriz ani obf pot 5 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Christanius Lionel pot ANI OBF 6 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Ox ANI OBF POT 6 Nosferatu
Antitribu
1 Gerard Rafin ani for OBF POT 6 Nosferatu
1 Alonzo Guillen ani for pot OBF 6 Nosferatu
4 Teresita for ANI OBF POT 7 Nosferatu
Antitribu

Library: (90 cards)
-------------------
Master (15 cards)
1 Information Network
1 Shanty Town Hunting Ground
1 KRCG News Radio
1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
4 Blood Doll
1 Rack, The
1 Nosferatu Kingdom
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
2 Smiling Jack, The Anarch
1 Shakar (for Teresita)

Action (8 cards)
4 Bum's Rush
2 Army of Rats
2 Tier of Souls

Action Modifier (4 cards)
4 Forgotten Labyrinth

Reaction (16 cards)
6 Cats` Guidance
2 Falcon's Eye
8 Forced Awakening

Combat (40 cards)
4 Trap
6 Drawing Out the Beast
8 Aid from Bats
8 Carrion Crows
4 Taste of Vitae
2 Superior Mettle
4 Soak
4 Skin of Steel

Retainer (6 cards)
3 Raven Spy
1 Mr. Winthrop
2 Owl Companion

Equipment (1 cards)
1 Palatial Estate
Anonymous
September 9, 2005 10:20:04 AM

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I forgot to suggest some more interesting options for your deck if your
metagame has plenty of heavy bleed decks (and your vampires can't
deflect).
Guardian Angel
Archon Investigation
Dummy Corporation

Try also:
Leather Jacket
Ivory Bow

..- Luis Duarte
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Anonymous
September 9, 2005 1:26:31 PM

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"Odrich Wendergass" <gsanvic@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:1126242609.850856.150260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Kindred,
>
> I've always been fascinated by the wall strategy and having a penchant
> for the uglies, I've tried my hand at making one starring the Nossies
> and !Nossies.
>
> Basic gameplay:
> Get 3 vamps out, preferable two with for. Employ Raven Spies and/or Owl
> Companions. Get Smiling Jack out and defend him.
>
> ANI combat: Trap-DotB-Crows-Bats (press). Repeat. Prevent/Taste.
>
> The Skin Mask will be used for tooling up, or in extreme cases, as a
> source for intercept. Untaps with Guard Dogs and Cats' Guidance.
>
> Should I junk one Owl for another Raven?
> Add more Army of Rats?
>
> Comments, please. TIA.
>
>
> OW
>
>
> Deck Name: Noz posse Rock-hard wall
>
> Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 18, Max: 28, Avg: 5.83)
> ----------------------------------------------
> 1 Shannon Price ani obf 3 Nosferatu
> Antitribu
> 1 Calebros obf pot ANI 5 Nosferatu
> 1 Nigel the Shunned obf ANI POT 5 Nosferatu
> Antitribu
> 1 Cicatriz ani obf pot 5 Nosferatu
> Antitribu
> 1 Christanius Lionel pot ANI OBF 6 Nosferatu
> Antitribu
> 1 Ox ANI OBF POT 6 Nosferatu
> Antitribu
> 1 Gerard Rafin ani for OBF POT 6 Nosferatu
> 1 Alonzo Guillen ani for pot OBF 6 Nosferatu
> 4 Teresita for ANI OBF POT 7 Nosferatu
> Antitribu
>
> Library: (90 cards)
> -------------------
> Master (14 cards)
> 1 Information Network
> 1 Shanty Town Hunting Ground
> 1 KRCG News Radio
> 1 Rumor Mill, Tabloid Newspaper, The
> 1 Warning Sirens
> 4 Blood Doll
> 1 Rack, The
> 1 Nosferatu Kingdom
> 1 Obfuscate
> 1 Smiling Jack, The Anarch
> 1 Fortitude
>
> Action (2 cards)
> 1 Shepherd`s Innocence
> 1 Army of Rats
>
> Reaction (16 cards)
> 8 Cats` Guidance
> 8 Guard Dogs
>
> Combat (40 cards)
> 4 Trap
> 6 Drawing Out the Beast
> 8 Aid from Bats
> 8 Carrion Crows
> 4 Taste of Vitae
> 2 Superior Mettle
> 2 Soak
> 2 Skin of Rock
> 2 Skin of Steel
> 2 Skin of Night
>
> Retainer (9 cards)
> 6 Raven Spy
> 1 Murder of Crows
> 2 Owl Companion
>
> Equipment (1 cards)
> 1 Changeling Skin Mask
>
> Combo (8 cards)
> 8 Swallowed by the Night
>

if your deck is based on Smiling Jack, The Anarch, 1 won't be enought, you
should add 3 or 4.
I would diversify the reaction cards. The guard dogs are not efficient
against an attempt to destroy Smiling Jack, put wakes or forced instead.
Falcon's Eye or Instinctive Reaction cuold help too. I would drop Warning
Sirens, Obfuscate skill and Changeling Skin Mask.
Anonymous
September 9, 2005 3:06:31 PM

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Trim 10 cards, and then put in 2 army rats, 2 tier of souls, 2 computer
hack, 2 bleed retainers, and 2 fame.

Or any 10 cards that put pressure on your prey and actually oust (yes
you have 2 currently, nowhere near enough).

A good 6 cards should come out of your combat module, 30-34 should be
plenty if they're the right ones.

You may also want to consider cards to lower your preys blood so that
the smiling jack (if you add more copies of that) will focus on them.
Society of leopold, vampiric disease and the like. Even gregory
winter.

G
Anonymous
September 9, 2005 9:44:47 PM

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"Odrich Wendergass" <gsanvic@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126242609.850856.150260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Kindred,
>
> I've always been fascinated by the wall strategy and having a penchant
> for the uglies, I've tried my hand at making one starring the Nossies
> and !Nossies.
>
> Basic gameplay:
> Get 3 vamps out, preferable two with for. Employ Raven Spies and/or Owl
> Companions. Get Smiling Jack out and defend him.

Further implications:
Take on the entire table. Get every minion on the board taking actions
to remove Smiling Jack. Lose all your minions to shear exhaustion.
Present undefended pool to predator. Become someone's free victory point
bitch.
Anonymous
September 10, 2005 2:57:38 PM

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"Odrich Wendergass" <gsanvic@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:1126242609.850856.150260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Kindred,
>
> I've always been fascinated by the wall strategy and having a penchant
> for the uglies, I've tried my hand at making one starring the Nossies
> and !Nossies.
>
> Basic gameplay:
> Get 3 vamps out, preferable two with for. Employ Raven Spies and/or Owl
> Companions. Get Smiling Jack out and defend him.

For this to work you should add cards that speed up the game. You want the
game to go to 3 players asap for this strategy to work. Or alternatively,
cards that slow the game down, like the Puritan Vampire hunter. You cannot
deffend a Smiling Jack with 4 people comming for it.
Anonymous
September 11, 2005 12:38:26 AM

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thanks for the replies, all. i'll report on the deck i'll bring to a
casual game next week. interesting concepts!

OW
Anonymous
September 13, 2005 12:13:41 AM

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I'm well aware of the possibilites, I have played anarchs long enough
to know that I, personally, cannot handle more than an 80 card library.
Things just don't work like they should when I go higher, despite
raising the number of legacies/go anarch. So space is an issue. About
Bobby and Ashton, you'll notice that superior animalism is absolutely
necessary where I've only added a splash of potence-related cards. Your
suggestions are cool, but it would require a complete re-working of the
deck if I were to keep my self-imposed 80 card limit. Suggestions I'd
consider would be raising the number of lids and groundfighting. Taste
and Terror Frenzy I normally run in Animalism based decks, but here I
don't have the space and would be the cards to cut. I can try and
squeeze some in instead of the pack alpha, relying on fearsome combat
in order to get my actions through. It's a possibility...
Anonymous
September 13, 2005 2:01:40 PM

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Frederick Scott wrote:
> "Odrich Wendergass" <gsanvic@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1126242609.850856.150260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Kindred,
>>
>>I've always been fascinated by the wall strategy and having a penchant
>>for the uglies, I've tried my hand at making one starring the Nossies
>>and !Nossies.
>>
>>Basic gameplay:
>>Get 3 vamps out, preferable two with for. Employ Raven Spies and/or Owl
>>Companions. Get Smiling Jack out and defend him.
>
>
> Further implications:
> Take on the entire table. Get every minion on the board taking actions
> to remove Smiling Jack. Lose all your minions to shear exhaustion.
> Present undefended pool to predator. Become someone's free victory point
> bitch.

While that might happen it is not even close to sure that it will
actually happen. Why?

First: there needs always somebody who starts to take actions against SJ
and the first few attempts will be prone to loosing vampires themselves.
So who is the one going first? Of course the table MUST gang up against
SJ but there are often better actions to take (e.g try to oust your
prey) for one or the other minion.

Second: Never play SJ while there are still 5 players on the table
because you will most likely not be able to defend it. At least one or
better two players need to be ousted first. With this kind of deck you
are shooting at the 1VP plus staying alive type of gamewin situation
anyway. And when there are 3 players left it is no big deal that the
table gangs up against you because they are you prey/pred anyway ;-)

And yes, add Milicent Smith, because that is just a great card for Wall
decks. Slow everything down until you have set up properly.

--
johannes walch
Anonymous
September 13, 2005 4:09:34 PM

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"Johannes Walch" <johannes.walch@vekn.de> wrote in message
news:D g6117$aio$1@news01.versatel.de...
> Frederick Scott wrote:
>> "Odrich Wendergass" <gsanvic@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1126242609.850856.150260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>>Basic gameplay:
>>>Get 3 vamps out, preferable two with for. Employ Raven Spies and/or Owl
>>>Companions. Get Smiling Jack out and defend him.
>>
>> Further implications:
>> Take on the entire table. Get every minion on the board taking actions
>> to remove Smiling Jack. Lose all your minions to shear exhaustion.
>> Present undefended pool to predator. Become someone's free victory point
>> bitch.
>
> While that might happen it is not even close to sure that it will
> actually happen. Why?
>
> First: there needs always somebody who starts to take actions against SJ
> and the first few attempts will be prone to loosing vampires themselves.
> So who is the one going first? Of course the table MUST gang up against
> SJ but there are often better actions to take (e.g try to oust your
> prey) for one or the other minion.

Well, yea. This is one specific question out of a range of questions that
the rest of the table has to deal with when contemplating acting against
Smiling Jack. It is certainly possible that the other players will fail
to colesce into a team that can successfully take out Jack but when that
happens, I tend to write that off as poor play on their part. Competant
players should not normally fail at this task, IMHO.

> Second: Never play SJ while there are still 5 players on the table
> because you will most likely not be able to defend it. At least one or
> better two players need to be ousted first. With this kind of deck you
> are shooting at the 1VP plus staying alive type of gamewin situation
> anyway. And when there are 3 players left it is no big deal that the
> table gangs up against you because they are you prey/pred anyway ;-)

Interesting advice. I never thought about it that way. Thanks for the
clue!

Fred
Anonymous
September 18, 2005 11:53:39 AM

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just a footnote on this thread:

i wasn't able to playtest the deck since i had too much fun with the
other decks i built (take a look at "Potence of hordes" and "Messy
Anarchs" threads).

i'll take on the revisions when i get the appropriate cards. thanks.


until then,

OW
!