Alan Sovereign ADV Spoiler, What does it does?

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Omael <omael.rangel@gmail.com> wrote:
> white wolf just posted the spoiler for the new Alan Sovereign Card, but
> i don't understad what does it does...
> 6 Cap: DOM AUS pre for, G3
> Advanced, Camarilla: While Allan is ready, you may pay some or all of
> the pool cost of equiping form any investment cards you control
> MERGED During your master phase, if Alan is ready, you may move a
> counter from any investment card to your pool.

> Dont you always pay the cost of the investment cards? what are the
> investment cards others than Short Term Investment and LTI.

Short Term Investment
Protracted Investment
Secret Horde

What his text means is that you can pay for Equipment cards with
counters from Investment cards.

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"Peter D Bakija" <pdb6@lightlink.com> wrote in message news:BF50B90C.21FC7%pdb6@lightlink.com...
> Omael wrote:
>
>> white wolf just posted the spoiler for the new Alan Sovereign Card, but
>> i don't understad what does it does...
>
> Probably a language thing?
>
>> 6 Cap: DOM AUS pre for, G3
>> Advanced, Camarilla: While Allan is ready, you may pay some or all of
>> the pool cost of equiping form any investment cards you control
>> MERGED During your master phase, if Alan is ready, you may move a
>> counter from any investment card to your pool.
>
> When you have advanced Allan Soverign in play, when you equip with
> something, you can pay for the thing you equip with with counters of
> investment cards (i.e. if you go and buy a .44 Magnum, you can pay for it
> with 2 counters off a Short Term Investment instead of with 2 pool). When he
> is merged, you can take counters off investment cards without using a master
> phase action.

Um, I don't think the merged text means that, exactly, no. Otherwise, I'm
going to break this card with the ultimate bloat deck: Alan Sovereign, Advanced
Alan Sovereign, Anson, The Parthenon, and a BUNCH of Secret Hordes. Every
turn that I could play three Secret Hordes, I could increase my pool almost
8-fold.

I think the merged text means you can move ONE extra counter from an
investment card every master phase - making them a lot more usable for
bloat.

Fred

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"during your master phase you may move a counter from any investment
card you control"
That ability is usable only once each turn, it specifies "A COUNTER".
My question was regarding the other ability, i was confused with that,
i thought that it granted him the ability to pay for an investment card
i've played... duh! silly me.

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Frederick Scott wrote:

> I think the merged text means you can move ONE extra counter from an
> investment card every master phase - making them a lot more usable for
> bloat.

Well, yes. It likely falls under the "During X, Do Y" template that defaults
to once per X. Which I was assuming in my description.


Peter D Bakija
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"So in conclusion, our business plan is to sell hot,
easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil

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" Um, I don't think the merged text means that, exactly, no.
Otherwise, I'm
going to break this card with the ultimate bloat deck: Alan Sovereign,
Advanced
Alan Sovereign, Anson, The Parthenon, and a BUNCH of Secret Hordes.
Every
turn that I could play three Secret Hordes, I could increase my pool
almost
8-fold. "

No way as Anson is Group 1 and Alan Group 3.

Sathriel

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Let me be the first to say....

"Fuuuuuuuuuuu.................................................ck."

-tpl

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sathriel@o2.pl wrote:

> No way as Anson is Group 1 and Alan Group 3.

Well, yes, but the important part being discussed is the the "Durning X, Do
Y" template that makes it so you can only do Y once each X by default.


Peter D Bakija
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"So in conclusion, our business plan is to sell hot,
easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil

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Alastor:
Political card - Worth 1 vote. Called by any justicar or Inner Circle member
at +1 stealth. Choose a ready Camarilla vampire. If this referendum is
successful, search your library for an equipment card and place this card
and the equipment on the chosen vampire. Pay half the cost (round down) of
the equipment. This vampire may enter combat with any vampire controlled by
another Methuselah as a +1 stealth (D) action. This vampire cannot commit
diablerie. A vampire may have only one Alastor.

Is this statement correct?: Alan's new card text cheese does not apply for
the Alastor political action, because the equipment is 'placed', not
'equipped'.

Damn. 1 pool Assult Rifles would have been cool. (1 pool for a short-term
investment, and take 2 of the 3 counters on the investment to pay for the
Alastor reduced cost Assult Rifle). 2 pool Flamethrowers will still rock

-Vinnie!



"Omael" <omael.rangel@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> white wolf just posted the spoiler for the new Alan Sovereign Card, but
> i don't understad what does it does...
> 6 Cap: DOM AUS pre for, G3
> Advanced, Camarilla: While Allan is ready, you may pay some or all of
> the pool cost of equiping form any investment cards you control
> MERGED During your master phase, if Alan is ready, you may move a
> counter from any investment card to your pool.
>
> Dont you always pay the cost of the investment cards? what are the
> investment cards others than Short Term Investment and LTI.
>

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On 18 Sep 2005 03:01:10 -0700, "Tessa" <vtes@tut.by> wrote:

>By the way, does the ability work with Slave Auction?

Slave Auction is not an Investment. Therefore, Alan Sovereign (either
incarnation) has no effect.

Morgan Vening

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"LSJ" <vtesrepSPAM@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote in message
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> Janne Hägglund wrote:
>>>6 Cap: DOM AUS pre for, G3
>>>Advanced, Camarilla: While Alan is ready, you may pay some or all of
>>>the pool cost of equiping form any investment cards you control
>>
>>>MERGED During your master phase, if Alan is ready, you may move a
>>>counter from any investment card to your pool.
>>
>> That merged ability... It doesn't say "investment card *you control*".
>>
>> So, does merged Alan allow you yo steal counters from your opponents'
>> investment cards?
>
> Yes.

Nasty!

Unlikely to come into play much, but still nasty.

Fred

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Frederick Scott wrote:

> Nasty!
>
> Unlikely to come into play much, but still nasty.

Heh heh. It's like there wasn't *already* enough disiincentive to play
STI...


Peter D Bakija
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"So in conclusion, our business plan is to sell hot,
easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil

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Fabio 'Sooner' Macedo wrote:

> My wife's comment at that:
> "the hability of V:tES players to make puns is unmatched".
>
> I hope this is some sort of a compliment.
>

Heh heh. I blame that one on Jon Darbro. Who doesn't really have an excuse,
as his wife is from Mexico, and he actually knows how to pronounce names
like that :-)


Peter D Bakija
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"So in conclusion, our business plan is to sell hot,
easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil

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On 9/18/05 12:55 PM, in article BF531432.22060%pdb6@lightlink.com, "Peter D
Bakija" <pdb6@lightlink.com> wrote:

> Frederick Scott wrote:
>
>> Nasty!
>>
>> Unlikely to come into play much, but still nasty.
>
> Heh heh. It's like there wasn't *already* enough disiincentive to play
> STI...
>
>

Wonder if it's worth working him into an Assault Rifle deck? AUS/dom makes
him a one-minion bounce/Counter module, and he's relatively sturdy with FOR.

Protracted Investment lets you get an AR for 2 pool [1 if merged, I guess?],
plus that deck type usually plays master-light anyway, so you often have
MPAs available for pulling counters back to pool.

- Pat

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Pat wrote:

> Wonder if it's worth working him into an Assault Rifle deck? AUS/dom makes
> him a one-minion bounce/Counter module, and he's relatively sturdy with FOR.
>
> Protracted Investment lets you get an AR for 2 pool [1 if merged, I guess?],
> plus that deck type usually plays master-light anyway, so you often have
> MPAs available for pulling counters back to pool.

That seems a very reasonable plan, for my money.


Peter D Bakija
pdb6@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6

"So in conclusion, our business plan is to sell hot,
easily spilled liquids to naked people."
-Brittni Meil