Looking for reprint info

G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc (More info?)

I'm looking for a list of cards that would identify every T2 card which
is a reprint of an earlier card. For instance, in 8th edition:

Coastal Tower (Invasion)

Ideally, I'd like it grouped by original expansion. Thus, "all the cards
from Urza's Saga that are now in T2", "all the cards from Odyssey", etc.


--
(Posted from an account used as a SPAM dump. If you really want to get
in touch with me, dump the 'jboes' and substitute 'mur'.)
________
Jeffery Boes <>< jboes@qtm.net
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc (More info?)

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:11:44 GMT, Jeff Boes <jboes@qtm.net> wrote:

>I'm looking for a list of cards that would identify every T2 card which
>is a reprint of an earlier card. For instance, in 8th edition:
>
>Coastal Tower (Invasion)

I can tell you how to get for example:

City of Brass
expansion: Arabian Nights
expansion: Fifth Edition
expansion: Classic (Sixth Edition)
expansion: Seventh Edition
expansion: Eighth Edition
expansion: Chronicles

For all cards in T2. Goto http://www.cs.vu.nl/~dskloet/magic/ and put
in these settings:

Expansion: Type 2.
Hit limit: A value larger than the number of cards in T2 (last hit
should be Zur's Weirding).
Uncheck all boxes to the right, then check "Name" and "Expansion".

Hit search (and wait :)

>Ideally, I'd like it grouped by original expansion. Thus, "all the cards
>from Urza's Saga that are now in T2", "all the cards from Odyssey", etc.

Well, that one is just a bit harder... David can sort by expansion,
but only by latest expansion - thus you get all Fifth Dawn cards
first, and eg. Shatter is listed under Mirrodin.

Perhaps if you write to him and petition, making his database reverse
the sort should not be hard - said the guy with no knowledge of the
behind-the-scene workings :)

--
Regards
Simon Nejmann
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc (More info?)

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Jeff Boes wrote:

> I'm looking for a list of cards that would identify every T2 card which
> is a reprint of an earlier card. For instance, in 8th edition:
>
> Coastal Tower (Invasion)
>
> Ideally, I'd like it grouped by original expansion. Thus, "all the cards
> from Urza's Saga that are now in T2", "all the cards from Odyssey", etc.

This is not possible from my web-interface but I'll email you the list
you're looking for.

--

David
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc (More info?)

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:38:36 +0200, David de Kloet <dskloet@cs.vu.nl>
wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Jeff Boes wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a list of cards that would identify every T2 card which
>> is a reprint of an earlier card. For instance, in 8th edition:
>>
>> Coastal Tower (Invasion)
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like it grouped by original expansion. Thus, "all the cards
>> from Urza's Saga that are now in T2", "all the cards from Odyssey", etc.
>
>This is not possible from my web-interface but I'll email you the list
>you're looking for.

Could you be persuaded to add a "reverse sorting order" checkbox to
your, otherwise great and very usefull, webinterface?

--
Regards
Simon Nejmann
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc (More info?)

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Simon Nejmann wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:38:36 +0200, David de Kloet <dskloet@cs.vu.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Jeff Boes wrote:
> >
> >> I'm looking for a list of cards that would identify every T2 card which
> >> is a reprint of an earlier card. For instance, in 8th edition:
> >>
> >> Coastal Tower (Invasion)
> >>
> >> Ideally, I'd like it grouped by original expansion. Thus, "all the cards
> >> from Urza's Saga that are now in T2", "all the cards from Odyssey", etc.
> >
> >This is not possible from my web-interface but I'll email you the list
> >you're looking for.
>
> Could you be persuaded to add a "reverse sorting order" checkbox to
> your, otherwise great and very usefull, webinterface?

I could but there is one problem.
By default some ordering criteria are already in descending order:
Ordering by expansion starts with the newest, by value will start with
the highest value and by popularity will start with the most popular.

When I add the "reverse order" checkbox, should it always sort
ascending when the box isn't checked? Or should it be like it's now by
default?
--

David
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc (More info?)

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:41:27 +0200, David de Kloet <dskloet@cs.vu.nl>
wrote:

>I could but there is one problem.
>By default some ordering criteria are already in descending order:
>Ordering by expansion starts with the newest, by value will start with
>the highest value and by popularity will start with the most popular.
>
>When I add the "reverse order" checkbox, should it always sort
>ascending when the box isn't checked? Or should it be like it's now by
>default?

Hmm, I would say, keep the defaults like the current default - those
looks like the most used versions.


On a different note. I have been trying to undestand the way you
handle expansions, but I have stumbled upon something I just can't
undestand... If I use your sql text field and give it:

cards.expansion = 18 and oracle.name like '%Aladdin''s Ring%'
or
cards.expansion = 17 and oracle.name like '%Aladdin''s Ring%'

It sucessfully finds Aladdin's Ring, but it finds nothing if I give
it:

cards.expansion = 17 and cards.expansion = 18 and oracle.name like
'%Aladdin''s Ring%'

This is not really suprising, since I kinda asks it to find all where
17 = 18. :)
So, my question is whether it is possible to use your interface to
find eg. all cards both in 7th and 8th editions?
Alternatively, how cards.expansion can be both 17 and 18, though not
at the same time?

--
Regards
Simon Nejmann
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc (More info?)

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Simon Nejmann wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:41:27 +0200, David de Kloet <dskloet@cs.vu.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >I could but there is one problem.
> >By default some ordering criteria are already in descending order:
> >Ordering by expansion starts with the newest, by value will start with
> >the highest value and by popularity will start with the most popular.
> >
> >When I add the "reverse order" checkbox, should it always sort
> >ascending when the box isn't checked? Or should it be like it's now by
> >default?
>
> Hmm, I would say, keep the defaults like the current default - those
> looks like the most used versions.

Ok, I'll see what I can do.

> On a different note. I have been trying to undestand the way you
> handle expansions, but I have stumbled upon something I just can't
> undestand... If I use your sql text field and give it:
>
> cards.expansion = 18 and oracle.name like '%Aladdin''s Ring%'
> or
> cards.expansion = 17 and oracle.name like '%Aladdin''s Ring%'
>
> It sucessfully finds Aladdin's Ring, but it finds nothing if I give
> it:
>
> cards.expansion = 17 and cards.expansion = 18 and oracle.name like
> '%Aladdin''s Ring%'
>
> This is not really suprising, since I kinda asks it to find all where
> 17 = 18. :)

You've got it ;)

> So, my question is whether it is possible to use your interface to
> find eg. all cards both in 7th and 8th editions?

It is possible to get them from my database but not with the
webinterface.

> Alternatively, how cards.expansion can be both 17 and 18, though not
> at the same time?

The 2 most important tables in my database are 'oracle' and 'cards'.
'oracle' basicly contains the information from The Card Reference Oracle.
And 'cards' contains information on which card is in which expansion
with which rarity, flavor text and artist etc.
If possible only the table 'oracle' is queried but when information
from 'cards' is necessary 'oracle' is joined with 'cards'. In 'cards'
the is a separate tuple for each version of a card. So when you search
for expansion = 17 you actualy get another card than when you search
for expasnion = 18.

To get all cards which are in both 17 and 18 you would have to join
'cards' with itself. Approximately like this:

select * from cards c1, cards c2 where c1.expansion = 17 and
c2.expansion = 18 and c1.oralce_id = c2.oracle_id;

But since the interface doesn't allow you to perform joins you cannot
get this from my website. I don't know how much you know of mysql but
I hope this explains some details to you.
--

David
 
G

Guest

Guest
Archived from groups: rec.games.trading-cards.magic.misc (More info?)

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:27:37 +0200, David de Kloet <dskloet@cs.vu.nl>
wrote:

>On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Simon Nejmann wrote:

>> So, my question is whether it is possible to use your interface to
>> find eg. all cards both in 7th and 8th editions?
>
>It is possible to get them from my database but not with the
>webinterface.

Ok, just curious anyway.

>> Alternatively, how cards.expansion can be both 17 and 18, though not
>> at the same time?

<snip explanation>
>But since the interface doesn't allow you to perform joins you cannot
>get this from my website. I don't know how much you know of mysql but
>I hope this explains some details to you.

Nice explanation, thanks.
I should know some sql, since I had a database course in my computer
science study. But I never really used it, so it's mostly forgotten...
:-|

--
Regards
Simon Nejmann