Don't underestimate the graphics power that RTSes need/will need in the future!
Toms hardware has covered a few RTS that look to be pretty graphically intensive, especially one they covered at E3 i believe, and it was DX9.
So I know of at least one DX9 RTS due out this year.
Plus games like CCG already require some pretty good hardware, AOE2 also.
I dont know if im just out of the loop or just plain stupid or something, but I didnt know the 9600 non-pro was out yet.
U sure that its a non-pro?
Neways, get a 9500/9600 PRO! Way better than the non-pro version, and both can be had for between 170 and 180.
I play mostly RPGS like baldurs gate ,neverwinternights,morrowind....(they usually don´t have all that high requirements)
The lowest price i can find here in Sweden is 200$ for the 4200 ti and radeon 9600(which will arrive next week)and the cheapest radeon 9600 pro is around 280$ (this is with shipping and taxes)i guess some things are more expensive in europe
Allright i´ll get an aopen case with a 350 watt PSU then
The Radeon 9600 i´m thinking of getting is made by connect3d and the pro is clocked at 400/300 and the non pro 325/200.
I just mailed them and they are using "Samsung 4x32 -3.3" for the non pro, do you think i could get those modules to run faster than 200 mhz ?
be careful with the psu my 350W wasnt enuff for my 9500. Anyway on ebuyer.co.uk u can get the 9500 non pro for £125 inc vat and delivery which is about $160 US dollars i think. Also be careful with the motherboard, my MSI K7N2 6750, 2400xp + and 9500 are all playin silly buggers with me. You have been warned
I´m absolutely no hardware expert ,but some of the vendors i talked to refused to build a pc with a nforce2 mb and anything but superexpensive corsair memmory because of stability issues.
I was also recomended to not mix parts from abit,asus and msi ( If you ask them to build the system for you, you´r more likely to get straight answers on compability isues so i will go with a kt400 , i hope that added stabilty will help, becuase i can´t really find any 350 + silent PSUS ..
Good bye and thanks alot for the input everyone,i think i´ll go with the radeon 9600 non pro
350W of a GOOD PSU will be sufficient. I run my XP2000+ with 2 opticals, 2 HDs, 1 EXTRA Lan, 1 Audigy, plus 3 whisper case fans PLUS the 9600PRO all on my Enermax Whisper 365 without incident. I would recommend the PRO as I like mine alot, but the 9600non-pro if it has 1/2 the headroom of my card will do well. And yes the 3.3ns memory should let you get close to 300mhz. Supposedly mine is 2.86ns (says 2A @ Samsung) and I got mine to 360mhz from 300 (rated for 350mhz). Also remember that the 9600s don't draw nearly the same power as the 9500pro, so I wouldn't worry too much. If you get a GOOD 350W PSU (giving you REAL 350+) you will be ok even with a few add-ins later. As for silent, my Enermax Whisper 365 is AWESOME quiet. I swapped out a regular 365 for it an sold the old one to a guy at school for the price of the new Whisper. I can't recommend better, unless you want the Whisper 465 :smile: .
Good luck with your purchases.
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