Panoptic Mirror & Entwine abilitiy

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I'm thinking yes, but I'm gonna ask anywho, just to be 100% sure.

Let's say I imprint a Shriveling Rot onto my Panoptic Mirror. Beginning of
my next upkeep I copy and play a Shriveling Rot without paying its CC. Can
I pay its entwine cost to use both its effects?


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Chuck Whitby <intvsama@verizon.net> sent:
> I'm thinking yes, but I'm gonna ask anywho, just to be 100% sure.

> Let's say I imprint a Shriveling Rot onto my Panoptic Mirror. Beginning of
> my next upkeep I copy and play a Shriveling Rot without paying its CC. Can
> I pay its entwine cost to use both its effects?

Entwine is an additional cost, not an alternative cost, so the following
entry from the Darksteel FAQ would indicate that you can:

* You don't pay the spell's mana cost. If the spell has X in its mana
cost, X is 0. You do pay any additional costs for that spell. You
can't use any alternative costs.

I read 'you do pay any additional costs' as 'must pay mandatory
additional costs, may choose to pay optional additional costs'.

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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 05:25:58 GMT, Chuck Whitby <intvsama@verizon.net> wrote:
>Let's say I imprint a Shriveling Rot onto my Panoptic Mirror. Beginning of
>my next upkeep I copy and play a Shriveling Rot without paying its CC. Can
>I pay its entwine cost to use both its effects?

Yes. You're not paying the mana cost; any mandatory, or optional, additional
costs are perfectly payable still.

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Zoe Stephenson <zrs1@uk.ac.york.reversed> wrote:
> * You don't pay the spell's mana cost. If the spell has X in its mana
> cost, X is 0. You do pay any additional costs for that spell. You
> can't use any alternative costs.
>
>I read 'you do pay any additional costs' as 'must pay mandatory
>additional costs, may choose to pay optional additional costs'.

Yes, exactly.

Dave
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Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Chuck Whitby wrote:

> I'm thinking yes, but I'm gonna ask anywho, just to be 100% sure.
>
> Let's say I imprint a Shriveling Rot onto my Panoptic Mirror. Beginning of
> my next upkeep I copy and play a Shriveling Rot without paying its CC. Can
> I pay its entwine cost to use both its effects?

Yes.

David
 

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