TPB Effect: DDoS Attacks on Music Industry Site

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ADM-86

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[citation][nom]jeraldjunkmail[/nom]The tone of this article suggests Toms is somewhat sympathetic towards Interweb Piratez...[/citation]
thats good :D ....(goes on and sings "YOU AREZ A PIRATEZ!)
 

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[citation][nom]jeraldjunkmail[/nom]The tone of this article suggests Toms is somewhat sympathetic towards Interweb Piratez...[/citation]

The music industry is just using the "omg piracy" argument to increase regulation of the internet. TPB is just a torrent tracker, it doesn't do anything illegal by itself. This verdict opens the door for lawsuits on anything related file sharing in general, regardless of its legality.

Say goodbye to rapidshare, megaupload, filefront, etc. They are all "facilitating illegal activities" according to the industry because some of their users use their services to share copyrighted files.
 

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Despite all seriousnes of the copyright issues - I think everyone is sympathetic with TPB except those that are making millions on films and music. And I don't get it why they complain that much, they've got more money than any of TPB guys, and more money than any person that EVER downloaded copyrighted material.

The rare movies/games that end up in "red", spending more for development than they earned from sales, failed because they were lousy enough so noone wanted them anyway.

I hope TPB gets off the hook, and I do believe they never made (much) money of the PirateBay anyway, so it's not like they had anything from all that.. well.. except the satisfaction of annoying RIAA and the likes :) But 1 year in jail and 2.x mil € is kinda harsh punishment for laughing at those stupid corporate letters.
 

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[citation][nom]turboflame[/nom]The music industry is just using the "omg piracy" argument to increase regulation of the internet. TPB is just a torrent tracker, it doesn't do anything illegal by itself. This verdict opens the door for lawsuits on anything related file sharing in general, regardless of its legality. Say goodbye to rapidshare, megaupload, filefront, etc. They are all "facilitating illegal activities" according to the industry because some of their users use their services to share copyrighted files.[/citation]

Don't forget YouTube, Google, .. hell, why not any ISP. Actually, why they are at it, they should take down Internet completely, close down Intel and AMD, sue Microsoft untill Bill Gates is broke, and then just fire few nukes at poorer countries like India.

Now, MAYBE that would solve all the issues movie and music "industries" have with this world.
 

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If these guys really finish in jail they will surely become some kind of heroes, legends - and that is quite opposite of what "industry" is trying to achieve.
 

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[citation][nom]zaratustra06[/nom]If these guys really finish in jail they will surely become some kind of heroes, legends - and that is quite opposite of what "industry" is trying to achieve.[/citation]

Martyrs is probably a better term.
 
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I suppose next we should sue Google for "facilitating illegal activities" since they provide links to all kinds of illegal and copyrighted material with the Search Engine
 

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[citation][nom]i_iz_pirate[/nom]I suppose next we should sue Google for "facilitating illegal activities" since they provide links to all kinds of illegal and copyrighted material with the Search Engine[/citation]


The problem is 99% of googles links aren't illegal...can anyone say the same about TPB?
 

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glad to hear that bigwig industry is getting hacked.they have rapes us consumers for years as well as the artists who are stupid enough to sign with the big lables.
 
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@Grims: since when did percentage become a defense? Didn't work for TPB....
 
[citation][nom]Grims[/nom]The problem is 99% of googles links aren't illegal...can anyone say the same about TPB?[/citation]

Prove the figure.

One can easily find the darkest of the web, including child porn and other disgusting materials on Google easily. EASILY. Plus they don't remove it until they're asked to.

TPB's torrents/links are 75% legal, as they proved in court.

Your move.
 

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TPB is on googles search engine, so therefor all illegal files on TPB were made possible by google. I can get all sorts of nasty stuff on google, Child porn, illegal files you name it. No company is man enough to sue the almighty google.
 

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The "last laugh" is that the verdict is meaningless. TPB is still around, the downloaders haven't been stopped.

Worse, since they managed to stir up this hornets nest they will end up paying many times more than the settlement for things like bandwidth fees from DDOS attacks like the one mentioned or consultant fees to beef up their security against future attacks.
 

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I think TPB trial surpasses the simply implications of piracy. I really don't approve the result of this trial because it violates several freedoms. The most basic one the principle of you being able to provide a service such as a web crawler, or being able to allow people post comments without moderation and so on. The result of this trial for Sweden may be a free card to censoring the web. You have to understand what is behind the torrent technology and as we all know TPB crew is not being charged for having or sharing pirate software.
Now more related to piracy and something people should ask themselves. Who remembers making tape recording of musics on the radio or tapes your friends borrowed? What about all those funny youtube movies taken from tv programs and so on? All this things are in violation of copyright laws. IF you copy mp3's from a friend of yours, you are violating copyright law. Now the problem is when piracy becomes so abundant that you can no longer deny it. In this case I completely agree with companies. But the thing is, I don't think they're dealing with the problem correctly. The problem is this companies are based on the traditional physical distribution system. Now they have to switch to the online distribution system. But this is a fresh opportunity for them to define new distribution rules. And due to this there is a huge gap between what people want from online distribution and what they are willing to provide. Some examples.
If I wanted to watch the latest Heroes episodes from outside the US by visiting the NBC site I wouldn't be able to. Why? Because they have several distribution deals in other territores and that episode will only become available to selected partners down below. But hell I want to see that episode. In fact, I'm willing to pay a small fee or watch TV ads in the US sites to see them. Well, touch luck you can't. What does the tech savy user do? It downloads the TV episode. Same goes for the movies. A movie goes out in theatres and people ask themselfs. Hell I'll just wait for the DVD release. But man that is only coming out in quite a few months. I want to see it now. Well once it becomes available online I'll get it. I'm even willing to pay. The user waits and waits and the movie appears online. Now here is the thing. Netflix doesn't have it for rental yet. They are just selling the movie not renting. Rental only available in a couple of months. DAMN I don't want to buy I want to rent. Well man no option for you. Hey wait there is an option. Now you may say if you can get it for free you will never pay. Wrong. Netflix sucess as an online movie rental system is proof of the contrary. Now lets move on to games. Man I want to play this game so bad. Nice I have some online distribution options. I can use Direct2Drive, EA download, and so on. I'll just ask to the gamers over here that have used this services. What do you think of the quality of service provided by them? I'll sum it up. In many of this services even If you have a fast connection it is faster to go to the store and buy the game then waiting for it to download...why ? because they really don't push you're download connection. But hey that is fine. If I get it online I'll probably buy the game cheaper than retail. No packaging, no cd, no manual. Should be cheaper right? WRONG. You pay exactly the same price as if you went to the store. It is good for THEIR businesses alright. They're lowering production costs while increasing sales margin. This and many other problems are the thing that has lead many people to download stuff from torrent sites. They have better quality of service using this stuff than using the legal means of distribution. There is something wrong in this dont' you guys think?
The point is. We are all in a connected world. The internet is here and it came to stay. It has brought people together. You can no longer thing of business in a territorial way, You need to think global and distribute GLOBAL. This is how you beat piracy once and for all
 

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I suppose that Google is illegal and will be taken down now, because you can usually find some trace of copyrighted material in the search results.
 

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[citation][nom]eddieroolz[/nom]Prove the figure. One can easily find the darkest of the web, including child porn and other disgusting materials on Google easily. EASILY. Plus they don't remove it until they're asked to. TPB's torrents/links are 75% legal, as they proved in court. Your move.[/citation]
In google I can type almost any game and find a pirated version of it (as in files for download) in about 1-3 pages. I have no idea what planet that guy is from..
 

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[citation][nom]Article[/nom]...common sense obviously wasn’t all that common after all...[/citation]
Great sentence!

As for the hacking - I can't really say I mind it this time around. And perhaps it's just a natural event really - they're adjusting to the new law system where the innocent are jailed, and the guilty are ignored .... so the safest bet is now to be criminal, in order to avoid precesution.
 

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I find it amusing how hard people fight to save a dollar. A dollar that could fund a company or an artist so that others can enhance their lives through their work. Ultimately, those who fight to keep piracy alive will end up penniless themselves... in a manner of speaking.
 
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