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June 22, 2003 3:01:37 PM

I am building a new system with an Asus A7N8X-Delux mobo with a 2500 Barton CPU. I was looking a various graphic cards when I saw this.

VGA PNY Verto GEFORCE FX 128MB DDR <b>PCI 8X</b> 5200 DUAL VGA TV-OUT. RETAIL BOX
Specifications:
BUS: PCI
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
128MB high speed DDR II RAM
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 16
Fill Rate (texels/sec.): 4 Billon
Maximum 3D/2D resolution of 2048 x 1536 @ 32bit color @85Hz
<A HREF="http://www.pny.com/products/verto/geForceFx/5200pci.cfm" target="_new">http://www.pny.com/products/verto/geForceFx/5200pci.cfm...;/A>

Now my questions.
1) What is PCI 8X? (is this a typo?)
2) When is PCI-X due to be released?
3) Is this marketing B.S.?
4} Would I be better served buying an AGP 8X card?
This is on newegg's web site. I am doing this on a budget and only have around $100 for the graphic card. Any suggestions for other cards would be appreciated.

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June 22, 2003 3:35:33 PM

DO NOT BUY THAT CARD!!!>>>THE 5200 IS JUNK!
You've picked out an excellent motherboard though.
DONT BUY THAT CARD!!!!

"I LOVE nVIDIA"
a b U Graphics card
June 22, 2003 3:40:07 PM

I followed the link ou provided, I have NO idea where you got either:
a) PCI 8X
or
b) 16GB/s it isn't mentioned anywhere! That would require 500/(1000)mhz ram running at the 128bit path they specify, that's FX5800Ultra speed.

If you gleened the spec from the link you gave, not a good synopsis. If someone is listing that as the specs of a card they are blind or stoopid.

Expect a 6.4 that's 6 not 16 GB/s memeory bandwidth. With memory running at 200(400)mhz 128bit. With the 250mhz core.

As for PCI-EX (express)?, it's a long way off. Like mid-2004 most likely.
PCI-X has been out for a few years, but won't help you with graphics cards.

To answer your questions:

1) Which one your or theirs?
2) Already out for a while (I have it on my 'work' rig, PCI-EX won't be ready 'til at least early 2004 if we're lucky.
3) What exactly, see no support for what you wrote. But if you got the other figures from somewhere, then yeah it's BS/TYPO mostly TYPO.
4) Yes, AND you'd be beter served by buying a totally different card. Even the GF4ti series! Go Look at previous posts covering the same topic. i.e. Budget card suggestions, FX5200..., Which Card....





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June 22, 2003 3:42:31 PM

heya Jaguarjoe;

erm that has to be a typo, what the hell is 8xPCI ive never heard of it! It sounds like to me they meant 8xAGP, or it was a serious typo and they meant plain old PCI, i didnt know they made the geforce in the PCI flavor though.

In any case AGP is the way to go.

Also i wouldnt buy a $100 card, any card in that price range is going to be slow as hell and you wont be able to play any of the new games out worth a damnn, go ahead and save up $200 and buy a decent card, I wouldnt suggest the FX 5200, its a piece of shiz, go with the ti4200, specifically the Asus v9280S, or go with a Radeon 9700 Pro.

you can get a standard model ti4200 or a radeon 9500 for around $100 if you insist on only spending that amount.

I would definately recommend an AGP 3.0 compliant card, for future motherboard compatability.

I hope i have Helped.

XeeN
a b U Graphics card
June 22, 2003 3:49:18 PM

If you follow his link it goes directly to the FX5200 PCI. But no mention of the stats. Just for future reference of a bad PCI solution for people with NO solution. On par with R9000/9100PCI?


- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! <font color=green>RED</font color=green> <font color=red>GREEN</font color=red> :tongue: GA to SK
a b U Graphics card
June 22, 2003 4:19:31 PM

Yep, no relation to reality whatsoever.


- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! <font color=green>RED</font color=green> <font color=red>GREEN</font color=red> :tongue: GA to SK
June 23, 2003 1:42:31 AM

Ok Grape...I have to ask. WTF does your sig mean? What the hell threat do stamps pose?

Unless it's going completely over my head which is a definate possibility.
a b U Graphics card
June 23, 2003 8:55:40 AM

It's a quote by Duct Tape Superhero <A HREF="http://www.redgreen.com/" target="_new"><font color=red>R<font color=green>e</font color=green>d <font color=green>G</font color=green>r<font color=green>e</font color=green>e<font color=green>n</font color=green></font color=red></A> from Canada (also seen on <A HREF="http://www.pbs.org/redgreen/about.html" target="_new">PBS</A> in the US); I added the (or internet account). It's a reference to there are no controls to free speech despite the stupid things that some people say. But it's 'tongue in cheek'. It's always struck me as a good saying. It would be like saying 'you need to pass a test to drive a car but they'll let anyone vote'. Which has more impact on the bigger picture, yet which one do we grant freely?
Red meant it regarding viewer mail, I mean it in the sense of the 'opinions are like a$$hole$' type of meaning; which I think is the same idea Red was driving at.
Being among the early adopters of the internet (way back when 300baud was 'killer', 90 wasn't uncommon [acoustic couplers anyone?]; and spam was something you joked about eating) I've noticed the deterioration of the quality in the internet (especially forums), since everyone can participate, and most abuse the concept. Those who value it most are definitely those who remember the days when BBS's were hard to find, long to read (read faster than the page downloaded).

Anywhoo, the short answer is that it's a reference to Red Green who's shows you may or may not have seen. Find out more about him <A HREF="http://www.redgreen.com/" target="_new"><font color=red>HERE</font color=red></A> and <A HREF="http://www.pbs.org/redgreen/about.html" target="_new"><font color=green>HERE</font color=green></A>.

Hope that helps.




- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp <i>(or internet account)</i> ! <font color=green>RED</font color=green> <font color=red>GREEN</font color=red> :tongue: GA to SK
June 23, 2003 9:11:00 AM

I don't think it could have possibly been explained better.

Thank you.
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