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I have questions about two cards:

,----[ Oracle (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dci/oracle) ]
|Sundering Titan
|{8}

|Artifact Creature

|7/10

|When Sundering Titan comes into play, choose a land of each basic land
type, then destroy those lands.

|When Sundering Titan leaves play, choose a land of each basic land type,
then destroy those lands.

|



Does this mean that it chooses a land of each basic type of every player to
destroy?





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|Taunting Elf

|{G}

|Creature -- Elf

|0/1

|All creatures able to block Taunting Elf do so.

|



What does this text mean? If I attack with it then *a* creature that can
block must do so OR *all* creatures able to black do so and are then not
avialable to block other attacking creatures?



NazMan

 

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NazMan wrote:

> I have questions about two cards:
>
> ,----[ Oracle (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dci/oracle) ]
> |Sundering Titan
> |{8}
> |Artifact Creature
> |7/10
> |When Sundering Titan comes into play, choose a land of each basic land
> type, then destroy those lands.
> |When Sundering Titan leaves play, choose a land of each basic land type,
> then destroy those lands.
>
>
> Does this mean that it chooses a land of each basic type of every player
> to destroy?

No. You choose *one* land of each basic type, period. The controllers
of said lands are irrelevant; you may choose any lands in play. But
you *must* choose a land of a given basic type if any lands of that
type are in play.
>
>
> |Taunting Elf
> |{G}
> |Creature -- Elf
> |0/1
> |All creatures able to block Taunting Elf do so.
>
>
>
> What does this text mean? If I attack with it then *a* creature that can
> block must do so OR *all* creatures able to black do so and are then not
> avialable to block other attacking creatures?
>
Um, doesn't the card text match *exactly* your second choice? "All
creatures able to block do so". Why would the cards *say* that if
it didn't *mean* that? So everybody piles on the Elf and none of
them are available to block other attackers (unless they can block
more than one creature at a time).


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On Sun, 02 May 2004 11:58:01 GMT, "NazMan" <cnazario@cinci.rr.com>
wrote:

>I have questions about two cards:
>
>,----[ Oracle (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dci/oracle) ]
>|Sundering Titan
>|{8}
>|Artifact Creature
>|7/10
>|When Sundering Titan comes into play, choose a land of each basic land
>type, then destroy those lands.
>|When Sundering Titan leaves play, choose a land of each basic land type,
>then destroy those lands.

>Does this mean that it chooses a land of each basic type of every player to
>destroy?

No, when it comes into or leaves play its controller must choose one
island, swamp, mountain, forest and plains, and then those cards are
destroyed - note; choosing your opponents lands is of course legal.
Also, if there are no mountains or forests in play then just choose a
island, swamp and plains.

You will have to ask someone else though if you want to know how this
interacts with the old dual lands that said "~this~ count as both a
Island and a Swamp" (or another color-friend combination).

>,----[ Oracle (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dci/oracle) ]
>|Taunting Elf
>|{G}
>|Creature -- Elf
>|0/1
>|All creatures able to block Taunting Elf do so.

>What does this text mean? If I attack with it then *a* creature that can
>block must do so OR *all* creatures able to black do so and are then not
>avialable to block other attacking creatures?

*All* creatures able to block Taunting Elf do so.

And yes, then they are generally not able to block anything else. Note
however that this is not allways true, there is a red creature named
<something> Two-Headed Giant that can block two attackers. Here it
will then have to block the Taunting Elf as one of those, but is
otherwise free to choose who to block as the second choise.
There is also white creature, Avatar of Hope I think, that is able to
block any number of creatures, and white also has an instant that
says: "Target creature may block an extra attacker this turn" or
something to that effect.

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Simon Nejmann

 

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On Sun, 02 May 2004 11:58:01 GMT, NazMan <cnazario@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>|Sundering Titan 8 Artifact Creature
>|7/10 When ~ comes into play, choose a land of each basic land type,
> then destroy those lands. / When ~ leaves play, choose a land of each basic
> land type, then destroy those lands.
>
>Does this mean that it chooses a land of each basic type of every player to
>destroy?

Nope; it doesn't say "for each player, choose a land of each basic land type
that player controls". You choose one Mountain, one Forest, one Plains, one
Swamp, and one Island, out of all the lands in play, then destroy the chosen
lands. This doesn't target anything. If you can't choose a land of a given
land type, you just don't choose for that type, and choose the ones you can
choose for.

>|Taunting Elf G Creature -- Elf
>|0/1 All creatures able to block ~ do so.
>
>What does this text mean? If I attack with it then *a* creature that can
>block must do so OR *all* creatures able to black do so and are then not
>avialable to block other attacking creatures?

The latter; if it's attacking, every creature that -can- block it has to
do so. (Your own creatures can't block it, because defender doesn't control
them; tapped creatures defender controls can't block it; etc.) Most of those
creatures won't also be able to block additional attackers, so yes, generally
this means your other attacking creatures will get through unblocked.

If it meant to pick just one creature to force to block it, it would be
worded like Provoke, and say something like "When Taunting Elf attacks,
target creature defeding player controls must block it this combat if able".

Dave
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Simon Nejmann <snejmann@worldonline.REMOVETHIS.dk> wrote:
>"NazMan" <cnazario@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>>Does this mean that it chooses a land of each basic type of every player to
>>destroy?
>
>No, when it comes into or leaves play its controller must choose one
>island, swamp, mountain, forest and plains, and then those cards are
>destroyed - note; choosing your opponents lands is of course legal.
>Also, if there are no mountains or forests in play then just choose a
>island, swamp and plains.
>
>You will have to ask someone else though if you want to know how this
>interacts with the old dual lands that said "~this~ count as both a
>Island and a Swamp" (or another color-friend combination).

You can choose that Underground Sea as both the Island and the Swamp to be
chosen, if you like, meaning that you don't have to choose it _and_ a
separate island, or it _and_ a separate swamp.

>And yes, then they are generally not able to block anything else. Note
>however that this is not allways true, there is a red creature named
><something> Two-Headed Giant

Two-Headed Giant of Foriys. (From Unlimited, never reprinted.)

>that can block two attackers. Here it
>will then have to block the Taunting Elf as one of those, but is
>otherwise free to choose who to block as the second choise.
>There is also white creature, Avatar of Hope I think, that is able to
>block any number of creatures, and white also has an instant that
>says: "Target creature may block an extra attacker this turn" or
>something to that effect.

There's other such stuff, like Yare or Two-Headed Dragon, but most stuff
doesn't have this special ability, correct.

Dave
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
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On Sun, 2 May 2004, NazMan wrote:

> I have questions about two cards:
>
> ,----[ Oracle (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dci/oracle) ]
> |Sundering Titan
> |{8}
> |Artifact Creature
> |7/10
> |When Sundering Titan comes into play, choose a land of each basic
> |land type, then destroy those lands.
> |When Sundering Titan leaves play, choose a land of each basic land
> |type, then destroy those lands.
> |
>
> Does this mean that it chooses a land of each basic type of every player to
> destroy?

No, it means it destroy a Plains of your choice if there is at least
one in play, an Island of your choice if there is at least one in
play, etc for Swamp, Mountain and Forest. Each time you have to choose
one of your own lands if you are the only one with the apropriate land
in play.

> ,----[ Oracle (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dci/oracle) ]
> |Taunting Elf
> |{G}
> |Creature -- Elf
> |0/1
> |All creatures able to block Taunting Elf do so.
> |
>
> What does this text mean? If I attack with it then *a* creature that can
> block must do so OR *all* creatures able to black do so and are then not
> avialable to block other attacking creatures?

This means that each creature able to block TE does so. Since most
creatures cannot block more than one creature they won't be able to
block any other creatures. If there is more than one creature that
must be blocked, defending player may choose which creature his
creatures block if they cannot block them all. He makes this choice
for each of his blocking creatures separately.

David

 

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On Sun, 2 May 2004, Simon Nejmann wrote:

> On Sun, 02 May 2004 11:58:01 GMT, "NazMan" <cnazario@cinci.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
<about Sundering Titan>
>
> You will have to ask someone else though if you want to know how this
> interacts with the old dual lands that said "~this~ count as both a
> Island and a Swamp" (or another color-friend combination).

Underground Sea may be your choice for Island as well as Swamp or
either one of them or none of them. But if there is an Undergrounds
Sea in play you have to choose at least one Island and at least one
Swamp since you can.

David
--
Underground Sea
Land -- Island Swamp

 

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David de Kloet wrote:

> On Sun, 2 May 2004, Simon Nejmann wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 02 May 2004 11:58:01 GMT, "NazMan" <cnazario@cinci.rr.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>
> <about Sundering Titan>
>
>>You will have to ask someone else though if you want to know how this
>>interacts with the old dual lands that said "~this~ count as both a
>>Island and a Swamp" (or another color-friend combination).
>
>
> Underground Sea may be your choice for Island as well as Swamp or
> either one of them or none of them. But if there is an Undergrounds
> Sea in play you have to choose at least one Island and at least one
> Swamp since you can.

Cute, so you can choose it as both your Island and Swamp picks?
Basically applying "destroy" to it twice and sparing any other
Islands or Swamps in play?
Did I word that correctly?