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July 2, 2003 7:55:04 PM

Please Help !

I need to know which one is the best.

Radeon 9100 128MB or GeForce3Ti200 64MB.

Cause I'm thinking of buying a "mid-range" graphics card and
I don't know which one to buy.

Thanx 4 The Help.

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July 2, 2003 8:01:55 PM

How much are you willing to spend? You may be able to do much better than either one of those. If I absolutely <i>had</i> to choose between those two I would get the 9100.

But that's just me. :cool:

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July 3, 2003 2:08:28 AM

Among those two..I choose Radeon9100, but can't you find the 64MB version? cuz 128MB version for a 9100 won't help much, and it might be using a very crappy ram like 5ns
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July 3, 2003 2:30:28 AM

Spend a little more and get a Ti4200.
July 3, 2003 2:36:13 AM

Hold on a tick, isn't the R9100 an R8500? In that case, get the Ti200 and oc that mofo (they oc very well).

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July 3, 2003 2:44:24 AM

Flame, an 8500 will woop a Ti500. Much less a Ti200.
July 3, 2003 3:18:06 AM

disagree with that.

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July 3, 2003 3:22:50 AM

Go read some reviews then.
July 3, 2003 3:25:55 AM

I have read reviews.

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July 3, 2003 3:27:55 AM

Then read 'reputable' reviews.... :smile:
July 3, 2003 3:46:18 AM

I agree with Flame on the Ti500. <A HREF="http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021218/index.htm..." target="_new"> VGA Charts</A>. I got my brother a Gainward GF3 Ti200 Golden Sample and it overclocks past Ti500 specs easily (250/510). I don't know why people seem to be thinking the R200 series wallops all over the GF3. (I have a R8500 BTW).
July 3, 2003 3:50:24 AM

I'm talking about the Ti500 beating the R8500 btw, not the Ti200. But the point is that the GF3 is still a decent card and isn't given enough credit.
July 3, 2003 3:52:45 AM

I think the Radeon 9100 is an R8500LE, not an R8500
July 3, 2003 3:56:29 AM

The 9100 is an 8500LE, we all know this.
The LE that I had was a great card that overclocked well.
July 3, 2003 3:59:06 AM

The GF3 Ti200 and the R8500LE are neck and neck. The GF3 Ti500 and the R8500 are neck and neck. They're both good cards.
July 3, 2003 4:10:02 AM

A plus to the GF3 is full and easy conversion to a quadro dcc which can be useful.

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July 3, 2003 4:16:31 AM

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A plus to the GF3 is full and easy conversion to a quadro dcc which can be useful.

Useful for what...Photoshop?
If you convert one of those cards to Quadro, it <b>will not</b> play games worth a shiit.
Flame, I know your a fan of the whole Soft-Quadro Conversion thing, and I admit that it is intruiging, but it's usefullness is extremely limited, and no one leaves their cards in Quadro mode for long....
July 3, 2003 4:29:47 AM

You are greatly mistaken there. It is true that many professional cards are optimized such that they will not play games well. This is certainly not the case with quadros. I personally own a Quadro DCC, and play many games with it fine. What softquadro/ nvstrap (all parts of Rivatuner- nvstrap simply goes into the low level settings) do is change the pci id. This then tells your drivers you have a quadro so it can optimize itself for opengl, but there are specific menus there (presets really) for each Pro 3d app you will be using. However, this opengl optimization affects d3d framerate very little- a few fps is all. In turn you get much more powerful opengl. In addition, it lets other drivers specific to a program (take Maxtreme for example) work (they don't work on a geforce since you don't "pay" for them- the reason for the high price of a quadro is such software bonuses).

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July 3, 2003 4:35:18 AM

Have you personally used a GeForce card, and changed the NV strap to Quadro mode, and played an OpenGL game on it?
The game will look better but you <b>will</b> suffer a framerate hit that few GeForce3 users will live with.
July 3, 2003 4:48:19 AM

Yes I have, I used to own a GeForce 3 and did it with that. It was fine, frame rates were essentially the same.

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July 3, 2003 4:49:18 AM

O, and I have done it to many friends' cards as well.

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July 3, 2003 5:09:06 AM

Well, Alexey himself has said, and I can go dig up the article, that the soft-quadro conversion was for better image quality, not to be done if you are seeking high framerates in games. Regardless of what card you use, or what you use to tweak it with, if you want better image quality, there will be a speed penalty, period. GeForce3's are not fast cards anymore, they need all the speed they can get.
July 3, 2003 5:21:59 AM

the geometry engine of the 8500/9100 is faster than a GF3. that helps alot in games more so than fill rate above a certain point... plus the pixel shader speed is superior on the 8500/9100

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July 3, 2003 5:32:59 AM

There are games out today that utilize PS1.4, UT03 is one of them. PS1.4 can lay down more textures in one pass then the GeForce3's PS1.3
So we have the entire R200 family = 8500/8500LE/9100 laying down textures in a single pass, while the geForce3 is using multi-pass to lay down a fallback of PS1.1 or 1.3
Of course this only in situations where PS1.4 is written in the actual game.
July 3, 2003 6:20:15 AM

Are you sure he was explicitly talking about a quadro conversion? It is all about getting higher frame rates and better functionality on 3d apps. The speed loss, I repeat, is negligble in games.

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July 3, 2003 6:39:03 AM

I have an NV25, and I have Rivatuner downloaded. I plan to find out whats up. I hope that your right Flame...
July 3, 2003 6:50:39 AM

Lol....your going to have to explain the process to me. I'm going to check for instructions on the web right now but may need your help.
July 3, 2003 7:11:00 AM

Fvck Rivatuner, I didnt feel like dealing with it. I just got my shiit dialed in with NVHardpage and dont feel like screwing it up. Flame, the soft quadro mod cant be that great or everyone would be doing it...
I dunno...
July 3, 2003 4:32:35 PM

A lot of people do it, but many just don't care/ know about it. Or in some cases people decided "Fvck Rivatuner, I didnt feel like dealing with it."
If you need help just tell me..

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