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July 6, 2003 1:43:07 AM

NVidia GeForce FX 5600 128 mb ram w/TV out
model # GF-FX-5600

Can someone tell me what I just won? I went to the NVidia website and all they show is the FX 5600 Ulta.
Did I win the Ulta? WHat is the performance differant anyways? I can't beleive I won this bid at $91. The last minute of the bid was a few guys trying to beat me hehe.
Advice is much appreciated.

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July 6, 2003 2:00:43 AM

I just looked on NewEgg.com and saw that alot of NVidia FX5600 and FX5600 Ultra cards are 128megs ram. Wonder why I got such a good price on this bid?
Just got lucky? Im assuming this card is equilivent to the Geforce4 4800se card 128meg.
July 6, 2003 2:48:02 AM

You got a 5600 non-ultra. Sry to tell you, but its MUCH worse than teh 5600 Ultra. But u still got a good price on it.

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July 6, 2003 2:51:27 AM

$91 is definitely a good price. At Newegg, the 5600 128meg starts at $138.
July 6, 2003 3:16:31 AM

What are the stats on this card? I'm curious to know how it stacks up against the GeForce TI 4800se (which is really a Ti 4400)
July 6, 2003 3:18:22 AM

You will find the TI4800se to be a better performer in almost all cases. The FX5600 handles anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering better though, and is DX9 compliant, but givin its lackluster performance, is not very well suited to any DX9 games anyways!

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July 6, 2003 3:19:33 AM

I should have mentioned. I just got StarWars Galaxies. I'm currenly playing it with a GeForce MX440se 64megs which sucks big time. When I replaced my old GeForce2 MX200 a long time ago it was no improvemet. I'm hoping this FX 5600 really does the trick with my AMD 1800+
July 6, 2003 4:14:08 AM

what's the difference between 5600Ultra and 5600?
it's not like the case in ATI's card? say Radeon9600Pro and Radeon9600np, only difference is clock speed?
July 6, 2003 6:24:25 AM

The difference between the 5600, and the 5600Ultra is huge.
Actually the first 5600Ultra's that came out sucked bad also, but nVIDIA came out with a second revision of the 5600Ultra, the flip-chip design that is pretty rockin'.
If you are going to get a 5600Ultra, you need to absolutely make sure that it is revision 2. [H]'s website will tell you the extreme performance differences if you read their reviews.
July 6, 2003 11:43:56 PM

What strikes me as odd is how people actually bid online on something they've no clue what it is. One would wonder if they should perhaps research before such hastily done actions.

Oh well, if his FX5600 is anything like those users here, he'll have thrown 91$ on a card he cannot return and get his money back, ergo -91$ in his pocket.

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July 7, 2003 8:07:29 AM

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Can someone tell me what I just won?


Why did you bid if you didn't know what it was? That's really stupid.

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July 7, 2003 5:25:21 PM

My thoughts as well, lol.

I think I'm gonna go back on Ebay and bid on this weird Alien Vibrator. Looks cool and seems to really give "contact" to Aliens.

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July 7, 2003 6:01:41 PM

Not to mention the fact that he's gone from a mx200 -> mx440 -> 5600 non-ultra. That's quite a lineup. Read some benchmarks, man.
July 7, 2003 7:46:07 PM

Don't listen to these hardcore mofos, Stylin.

You're going to see a huge improvement over your Geforce MX with the 5600. It's not the best card, but you should be able to run Galaxies at 2xAA with way more detail than you did before, and the pixel shaders will make the water in-game look real tasty.

You don't have the best card in the world, but for $91 you didn't do that bad at all. And hell, who knows? Maybe it'll overclock to ULTRA V2 speeds.

Bottom line, you're going to notice a huge difference in performance for a small amount of scratch. I don't think you've really done that badly at all.

But next time... ask us first, K? :) 

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July 7, 2003 7:47:54 PM

The card is pretty much the ti 4600-4800 except with more DX9 support.
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July 7, 2003 9:53:09 PM

And tell our lovely contestant what he/she has just won. It'a a NEW FX5600 BOX!
This box will come with all the original colouring, plastic shrink wrap (slightly cut) and original packing material, AND a BRICK to make it feel heavy! :tongue:
And a can of Turtle Wax!

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July 8, 2003 12:13:10 AM

I couldn't disagree more.

Here is how I find relativity around the cards now:

-The 9500PRO contends the Ti4400, and manages to occasionally outrun the Ti4600, and when it comes to AA and Aniso, rapes.
-The 9600PRO is less powerful than the 9500PRO overall (Ape, can it, no overclocks allowed!!! :tongue: ), and therefore contends more along the lines of Ti4400 anytime.
-The old rev. FX5600 Ultra sucked badly, could not even beat the 9500PRO.
-The new FX5600 Ultra seems to be on the lines of the 9600PRO.
-The FX 5600 regular, assuming it is weaker by a 20% margin, means it performs around a Ti500. (going down the line, before a Ti4200 comes a Ti500 by 15%)

Therefore, the MX440 which was overall a Ti200 but with 5% less performance, shall give him, about 2x the performance and DX9.
But WAIT! The catch is, ya can't run the new hardware technologies without the POWER of the hardware. And well, I feel compelled to just trash the FX serie and their DX9 prowess, by saying the FX5600 WILL SUCK in DirectX 9.
Luckily he didn't fall for an FX5200, which kinda makes it a bit better.
And I guess the price DOES give a good price/performance ratio. What worries me most, as I said, is that the FX5600 has done nothing but instability to users in the forum here.


PS: I think most users here are indeed regurgitating or spewing big-time FUD when they compare card performance lately. Seriously, FX5600 tying a damn Ti4400 with 8X?!
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July 8, 2003 3:24:22 AM

Yeah your all right. I had to make the decision with 3 minutes left on the ebay bid. I did do research before on the GeForce lineup. So I knew that this card was at least twice as good as my GeForce MX440se. And I also knew that a card that you all say is great start at $150 on up. Including buying on Ebay. which bites. You would figure you would save at least 20% on ebay vs buying from Online stores. But I see its not the case. If damn should be 50% less.

One more problem. I emailed the seller 3 times now. Asking what Brand the card is and if it came with any software. Also for a total price which includes shipping. I have not yet heard a word from him. I will not send this guy money untill I do. Its been 3 days now. I just might blow this guy off and buy either a GF 4400 or Radeon 9600 and spend the extra $40.
July 8, 2003 3:30:46 AM

Yeah man, you did a damn good job not posting the money yet. That's the right way. If the guy does not reply, consider putting negative criticism in his feedback page, and make sure to blow him off.

If you do, I guess yeah 91$ was a damn fine opportunity that got lost on idiot sellers who lie, but at least you kept your dignity in this and did not get fooled into paying before being sure by the seller's assurance. That is of course in the event he IS a con artist!

For the possible replacement card, a 9600PRO is a fine choice, slightly less performing than a Ti4400 but has great overclockability and futureproofness. (potential by drivers also available.)

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July 8, 2003 3:47:33 AM

OK ive decided it. Radeon 9600 Pro. Which should I get?

Saphire $132, Connect3D $130 or LEADTEK GEFORCE4 TI 4400 for $125. All are on Ebay and 128meg cards.

StarWars Galaxies is a Directx 9.0 game
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July 8, 2003 6:13:18 AM

Saphire is the way to go never heard of Connect3D

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July 8, 2003 9:09:32 AM

I've heard of Connect 3D and they're not bad, but primarily a non-North Am. re-seller/partner.

here's a review I posted earlier in another thread (which I'll bump);

<A HREF="http://www.themodfathers.com/reviews/9600pro.php" target="_new">http://www.themodfathers.com/reviews/9600pro.php&lt;/A>

The strange thing is the Conect3D cards use Hynix memory (2.8ns) instead of the Samsung (2.86ns) memory. However the review didn't show the Hynix as clocking higher, it actually maxed out lower than my BBA card.

Anywhoo, just some more info.


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July 8, 2003 8:54:03 PM

Those are quite low prices.

Go for the 9600PRO, get more future-proofness.

Now if only ATi can start working on the damn 9600PRO driver-side of things and optimize for it.

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