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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:42:18 +0800, "The Dude"
<thedude@thedudelives.com> wrote:
>Chris Wiegert wrote:
>>>>> are cards like disenchant, counterspell, stone rain, etc, called
>>>>> basic cards? if so, where can i get a basic card list? thanks.
>>>>
>>>> I believe "staple" is the term used for that kind of cards.
>>>
>>> lol. okay, basically, what are the staple cards? is there a list? i
>>> cant seem to find a staple list in apprentice.
>>
>> That would be because there *is* no official list of "staples".
>> Different people would consider different cards to be staples, it's a
>> matter of opinion. Why are you looking for this list anyway? Are you
>> maybe looking for a list of cards in the base set, meaning 8th
>> Edition?
>
>well, if its called base set, i find it weird that theres no 'counterspell'
>in 8th ed. (in apprentice), but there IS counterspell in the 8th ed pre
>constructed deck 'sky slam'. i just wanna know is there a name for this type
>of cards and are they universally legal to be used in ANY sets?
Certain cards have appeared so often in the history of Magic that they
are considered "staples" of the game (they are usually also rather
good at what they do). Take Disenchant for example, it is cheap and
efficient artifact and enchantment removal, and it has appeared in:
Ice Age
Mirage
Tempest
Urza's Saga
Mercadian Masques
Alpha, Beta, Unlimited
Revised Edition
Fourth Edition
Fifth Edition
Classic (Sixth Edition)
Seventh Edition
Starter 2000
Of course, in 8th ed. they revised the color wheel and moved
Disenchant to green and named it Naturalize...
Another staple could be Birds of Paradise that has appeared in every
base set so far - it won't be in 9th, though.
However, a list of staples would be impossible to create - it is just
a subjective "this is a good long-standing member of the Magic family"
term, that has nothing to do with the game rules. Making a list of
staple cards is like making a top 10 best players in <insert some
sport>, everybody has their own candidates and nobody can agree on
more than half of the list
That leads us to "legal in ANY set"...
Well sorry, but no cards are legal in _any_ set by default. All
formats have strict rules as to what cards are allowed, for example I
believe standart is "latest basic set + latest expansion block".
Ps. As for Sky Slam - where did you find out that Counterspell was in
there? Could it be that you confused the counterspell "Mana Leak" with
the counterspell "Counterspell"?
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Regards
Simon Nejmann