Quick question about Samurai of the Pale Curtain

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OK quick question abotu Samurai of the Pale Curtain. It says when a
permanent goes to the graveyard it is removed form the game instead.
Now what do they mean by permanent? Can i discard a creature card and
will that go into the graveyard or will it be removed from play? Are
the only things that get removed from the graveyard actual cards that
are in play?
thanks in advance.

 

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In news:153f2c2f.0411120921.761ca991@posting.google.com,
Chief <snu0037@aol.com> rambled:
>
> OK quick question abotu Samurai of the Pale Curtain. It says when a
> permanent goes to the graveyard it is removed form the game instead.
> Now what do they mean by permanent? Can i discard a creature card and
> will that go into the graveyard or will it be removed from play? Are
> the only things that get removed from the graveyard actual cards that
> are in play?
> thanks in advance.

A card is only a permanent if it's in play. So if you have to discard for
any reason while Samurai of the Pale Curtain is in play, and the discarded
card is an Artifact, Creature, Enchantment, or Land, then it still goes to
the graveyard. Because when a card is in your hand, it's nothing more than a
card with a type (Creature, Sorcery, etc), not a permanent.

HTH.

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KB

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Chief wrote:

> OK quick question abotu Samurai of the Pale Curtain. It says when a
> permanent goes to the graveyard it is removed form the game instead.
> Now what do they mean by permanent?

An enchantment, creature, land, or artifact that is in play. (well,
that's a bit redundant, since they aren't enchantments, creatures,
lands or artifacts when they aren't in play, they're just cards)

> Can i discard a creature card and
> will that go into the graveyard or will it be removed from play?

No, a card that is not in play is not a permanent. The card
goes to the graveyard.

> Are
> the only things that get removed from the graveyard actual cards that
> are in play?

Nothing either in play or out of play gets removed from the graveyard
by this card. Only cards (and tokens) that are in play are redirected
from the graveyard to the RFG zone.

> thanks in advance.

--
Christopher Mattern

"Which one you figure tracked us?"
"The ugly one, sir."
"...Could you be more specific?"

 

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> OK quick question abotu Samurai of the Pale Curtain. It says when a
> permanent goes to the graveyard it is removed form the game instead.
> Now what do they mean by permanent? Can i discard a creature card and
> will that go into the graveyard or will it be removed from play? Are
> the only things that get removed from the graveyard actual cards that
> are in play?
> thanks in advance.

A permanent is any card that's in play. Cards in your hand are not in
play, and thus not permanents, so discarded stuff will still go to the
graveyard as usual.

 

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Oh no! It's @n!
> > OK quick question abotu Samurai of the Pale Curtain. It says when a
> > permanent goes to the graveyard it is removed form the game instead.
> > Now what do they mean by permanent? Can i discard a creature card and
> > will that go into the graveyard or will it be removed from play? Are
> > the only things that get removed from the graveyard actual cards that
> > are in play?
> > thanks in advance.
>
> A permanent is any card that's in play.

Tokens are also permanents, actually, though it doesn't make much
difference to this particular card.

 

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Jeff Heikkinen wrote:

> Oh no! It's @n!
>> > OK quick question abotu Samurai of the Pale Curtain. It says when a
>> > permanent goes to the graveyard it is removed form the game instead.
>> > Now what do they mean by permanent? Can i discard a creature card and
>> > will that go into the graveyard or will it be removed from play? Are
>> > the only things that get removed from the graveyard actual cards that
>> > are in play?
>> > thanks in advance.
>>
>> A permanent is any card that's in play.
>
> Tokens are also permanents, actually, though it doesn't make much
> difference to this particular card.

Some, though. Some cards look for stuff in play going to the graveyard,
and they'll trigger on a token going to the graveyard--but not when
this card's in play...
--
Christopher Mattern

"Which one you figure tracked us?"
"The ugly one, sir."
"...Could you be more specific?"

 

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On 12 Nov 2004 09:21:03 -0800, Chief <snu0037@aol.com> wrote:
>OK quick question abotu Samurai of the Pale Curtain. It says when a
>permanent goes to the graveyard it is removed form the game instead.

Yes.

>Now what do they mean by permanent?

A "permanent" is a card or token in the in-play zone.

>Can i discard a creature card and
>will that go into the graveyard or will it be removed from play?

A creature card in your hand is never a "permanent", because it is not in
play. In general, only cards (or tokens) in play can get affected by Samurai
of the Pale Curtain; it doesn't affect cards in players' hands, libraries,
graveyards, on the stack, or in other zones.

[The Unhinged preview card for yesterday shows a case where it -can- affect
a card on top of someone's library.]

>Are the only things that get removed from the graveyard actual cards that
>are in play?

Cards, or tokens. But yes, they have to be going from in-play to the graveyard,
as "in play" is the only place a "permanent" can exist.

Dave
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Chief sez:

<<
>OK quick question abotu Samurai of the Pale Curtain. It says when a
>permanent goes to the graveyard it is removed form the game instead.
>Now what do they mean by permanent?
>
>>

That means anything in play (remember that) that goes to the graveyard is
removed from the game instead. It's like Nether Void.


<<
>Can i discard a creature card and
>will that go into the graveyard or will it be removed from play?
>>

It'll go to the graveyard. At that time, it's not a permanent. It's just a
card that will become a permanent once it's in play. But it isn't yet, so the
Samurai will not affect it.

<<
>Are
>the only things that get removed from the graveyard actual cards that
>are in play?
>>

Yes, that's it.


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