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Summary of cards involved in my question:
Mesmeric Orb [2, Artifact]
Whenever a permanent becomes untapped, that permanent’s controller
puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Oath of Druids [1G, Enchantment]
At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, if that player controls
fewer creatures than any of his or her opponents, the player may
reveal cards from the top of his or her library until he or she
reveals a creature card. The player puts that card into play and all
other cards revealed this way into his or her graveyard.
Gaea's Blessing [1G, Sorcery]
Target player shuffles up to three target cards from his or her
graveyard into his or her library.
Draw a card.
When Gaea’s Blessing is put into your graveyard from your library,
shuffle your graveyard into your library.
Game Preserve [2G, Enchantment]
At the beginning of your upkeep, each player reveals the top card of
his or her library. If all cards revealed this way are creature cards,
put those cards into play under their owners’ control. (Otherwise, put
them back face-down on top of their owners’ libraries.)
I have a strange reanimator deck that uses Orb/Oath/Blessing, and I
just wanted to know all my options when manipulating my library and
grave.
1) The Orb triggers once for each untap and goes onto the stack in
upkeep since there is no stack in the untap step. Let's say I had 4
tapped permanents, and Gaea's Blessing shows up on the 2nd card. I
shuffle grave into library, and then resume putting cards from library
to grave (2 more). Correct?
2) When dealing with the Oath on the other hand, I reveal cards until
I get a creature. If a Blessing is revealed, I only shuffle grave
into library at the end, and thus all those cards get put back into
library and I have empty grave. Correct?
3) Orb and Oath are in play. I start the upkeep with multple untap
triggers on the stack.
A: Can I add to that stack and activate the Oath (assuming I have less
creatures of course)? Resolving stack first in last out, the Orb
events happen after I deal with the Oath.
B: I also have the choice of letting Orb resolve and then activating
the Oath during upkeep. In this case, the Orb events happen first,
then the Oath.
Bonus Question (I don't use the Game Preserve)
4) Orb and Game Preserve are in play. I have no choice on timing, and
the situation is similar to 3A. Game Preserve trigger goes onto stack
on top of the Orb events and is dealt with first.
Terry Detrie
Summary of cards involved in my question:
Mesmeric Orb [2, Artifact]
Whenever a permanent becomes untapped, that permanent’s controller
puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Oath of Druids [1G, Enchantment]
At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, if that player controls
fewer creatures than any of his or her opponents, the player may
reveal cards from the top of his or her library until he or she
reveals a creature card. The player puts that card into play and all
other cards revealed this way into his or her graveyard.
Gaea's Blessing [1G, Sorcery]
Target player shuffles up to three target cards from his or her
graveyard into his or her library.
Draw a card.
When Gaea’s Blessing is put into your graveyard from your library,
shuffle your graveyard into your library.
Game Preserve [2G, Enchantment]
At the beginning of your upkeep, each player reveals the top card of
his or her library. If all cards revealed this way are creature cards,
put those cards into play under their owners’ control. (Otherwise, put
them back face-down on top of their owners’ libraries.)
I have a strange reanimator deck that uses Orb/Oath/Blessing, and I
just wanted to know all my options when manipulating my library and
grave.
1) The Orb triggers once for each untap and goes onto the stack in
upkeep since there is no stack in the untap step. Let's say I had 4
tapped permanents, and Gaea's Blessing shows up on the 2nd card. I
shuffle grave into library, and then resume putting cards from library
to grave (2 more). Correct?
2) When dealing with the Oath on the other hand, I reveal cards until
I get a creature. If a Blessing is revealed, I only shuffle grave
into library at the end, and thus all those cards get put back into
library and I have empty grave. Correct?
3) Orb and Oath are in play. I start the upkeep with multple untap
triggers on the stack.
A: Can I add to that stack and activate the Oath (assuming I have less
creatures of course)? Resolving stack first in last out, the Orb
events happen after I deal with the Oath.
B: I also have the choice of letting Orb resolve and then activating
the Oath during upkeep. In this case, the Orb events happen first,
then the Oath.
Bonus Question (I don't use the Game Preserve)
4) Orb and Game Preserve are in play. I have no choice on timing, and
the situation is similar to 3A. Game Preserve trigger goes onto stack
on top of the Orb events and is dealt with first.
Terry Detrie
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