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120% nVidia Fanboy
PROUD OWNER OF THE GEFORCE FX 5900ULTRA <-- I wish this was me
I'd get a nVidia GeForce FX 5900Ultra... if THEY WOULD CHANGE THAT #()#@ HSF
The MatROX Paraphernalia, to steal someone elses name for it. With the upcoming 512mb version it's gotta be the best!
In regards to the question, here's my answer:
"What do YOU like?!?" Whomever you prefer go with them, you'll likely do OK. I have a preference, but it's due to actions by the parent company, not the card itself (except a potential issue in HL2 which isn't enuff' IMO).
I can show you a dozen benchmarks/reviews showing either one or the other being the 'better' card. In the end, they ae on par. Go for price and personal prefeence (features, software, brand you prefer).
But in reality I don't like either the FX5900s or the R9800s. I'm still waiting for the next gen. Now an RV380/R420 sounds nice (I just read the R420 may contain multiple [equivalent of 4 R9600s] VPUs on one chip).
That's my two frames worth.
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Forget ati or nvidea, SiS all the way. I was playing tomb raider at 400x300 on a celeron 400 at 20fps with a SiS 8mb card! Oh and unreal tourney at 512x384 @ 21fps lol. Then I got my first 3d card, a voodoo 3 and ran those games at 1024x768 @ 25-40fps! Boy what a wake up call. Nice memories....
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Likely the R9800Pro will give you better performance, however is it $40 better? I don't know. Really depends on what you play. Origianlly I thought the question was about Pro v. Ultra, where they are the same. However the PRo v. non-ultra, I'd have to say the pro will almost always do better. Just from what I've seen out there.
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The 9800pro should beat the 5900 non ultra easily. All the benchies ive seen indicate; 5900ultra>9800pro>5800(new)/5900 9700pro>9500pro>9600pro>5600. In reality though, the 5900ultra and 9800pro are very close, the 5800,5900np and 9700pro are very close and the 9500pro,9600pro and 5600 are close.
Well here's a recent <A HREF="http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/radeon/r9800pro-ue.html" target="_new">GOOD REVIEW</A> comparing the two (passively cooled Sapphire R9800Pro in this case) at Digit-Life. I don't think I've seen ANY recent reviews that put the FX5900U above the R9800Pro all the time, I'd say the end result is always R9800P >=< FX5900U. One wins test A loses test B ties test C, etc.
The only thing that is clear to me, is that they are both very close, and it will be more test/game specifics or brand specifics that will be the best determinant of which is best for a particular user/buyer. That and whatever looks coolest in your rig. I say go for the Hercules R9800P, can't beat a Blue LED on Blue PCB!
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These days, no matter what company you like, be it <b>nVidia, ATi, or whatever,</b> no matter how logical your reasons, you're labeled an <b>idiot</b> or a <b>fanboy</b>, or <b>both.</b>
<A HREF="http://pricewatch.com" target="_new">http://pricewatch.com</A> $330 Radeon 9800 Pro 128
These days, no matter what company you like, be it <b>nVidia, ATi, or whatever,</b> no matter how logical your reasons, you're labeled an <b>idiot</b> or a <b>fanboy</b>, or <b>both.</b>
Ok fool, but I ain't buying one from the guy dressed in black who comes around the corner at night after 12....may not have the best rep. Newegg has a 9800 pro for a few bucks more expensive than a 5900, and perhaps he is using a different dealer.
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