Nvidia or Ati?

cbarger · Jul 28, 2003

In all of your opinions which card do you think is better and why? Nvidia FX 5900 128 meg (not Ultra) or Ati Radeon 9800 Pro 128 meg?

Edited by cbarger on 07/27/03 11:31 PM.

lhgpoobaa · Jul 28, 2003

LOL whats a Radeon 5800 pro???
Dont you mean either R9700pro or R9800pro?

I personally prefer ATi now as there is less of a hit using AA and the cards are cheaper (and 5900's were hard to find, at least a few weeks back)

"Why don't you try practicing random acts of intelligence and senseless acts of self-control?"

flamethrower205 · Jul 28, 2003

*puts ear to the ground and shakes head as he forsees the coming flame war*
Specify if you meant R9800.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

cbarger · Jul 28, 2003

oops on the type O. Yes the 9800 pro...

coolsquirtle · Jul 28, 2003

To avoid further flame wars, the answer is MATROX

MAT!!!!!!ROX~!!!!!!!

Proud Owner the Block Heater
120% nVidia Fanboy
PROUD OWNER OF THE GEFORCE FX 5900ULTRA <-- I wish this was me
I'd get a nVidia GeForce FX 5900Ultra... if THEY WOULD CHANGE THAT #()#@ HSF

Willamette_sucks · Jul 28, 2003

HAHAHA! I will proselytize you all yet! You watch!

ATI is The Way!!!

"Mice eat cheese." - Modest Mouse

"Every Day is the Right Day." -Pink Floyd

TheGreatGrapeApe · Jul 28, 2003

ROFLMAO! Ahh, I have a Convert!

1 point!

The MatROX Paraphernalia, to steal someone elses name for it. With the upcoming 512mb version it's gotta be the best!

In regards to the question, here's my answer:

"What do YOU like?!?" Whomever you prefer go with them, you'll likely do OK. I have a preference, but it's due to actions by the parent company, not the card itself (except a potential issue in HL2 which isn't enuff' IMO).

I can show you a dozen benchmarks/reviews showing either one or the other being the 'better' card. In the end, they ae on par. Go for price and personal prefeence (features, software, brand you prefer).

But in reality I don't like either the FX5900s or the R9800s. I'm still waiting for the next gen. Now an RV380/R420 sounds nice (I just read the R420 may contain multiple [equivalent of 4 R9600s] VPUs on one chip).

That's my two frames worth.

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speeduk · Jul 28, 2003

Forget ati or nvidea, SiS all the way. I was playing tomb raider at 400x300 on a celeron 400 at 20fps with a SiS 8mb card! Oh and unreal tourney at 512x384 @ 21fps lol. Then I got my first 3d card, a voodoo 3 and ran those games at 1024x768 @ 25-40fps! Boy what a wake up call. Nice memories....

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6790821" target="_new"> MY RIG </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1065087" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
 120% overclocker (cheapskate)

TheGreatGrapeApe · Jul 28, 2003

I see your SIS and raise you a NeoMagic! :tongue:

- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp (or internet account) ! <A HREF="http://www.redgreen.com" target="_new">RED GREEN</A> GA to SK :evil:

cbarger · Jul 28, 2003

I seee that and call with a Power vr....

cbarger · Jul 28, 2003

Realy what card will give better performance: Radeon 9800 pro 128 or Fx 5900 128 (non Ultra)? Price R9800 $399 Fx 5900 $350.

TheGreatGrapeApe · Jul 28, 2003

Likely the R9800Pro will give you better performance, however is it $40 better? I don't know. Really depends on what you play. Origianlly I thought the question was about Pro v. Ultra, where they are the same. However the PRo v. non-ultra, I'd have to say the pro will almost always do better. Just from what I've seen out there.

- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp (or internet account) ! <A HREF="http://www.redgreen.com" target="_new">RED GREEN</A> GA to SK :evil:

speeduk · Jul 28, 2003

The 9800pro should beat the 5900 non ultra easily. All the benchies ive seen indicate; 5900ultra>9800pro>5800(new)/5900 9700pro>9500pro>9600pro>5600. In reality though, the 5900ultra and 9800pro are very close, the 5800,5900np and 9700pro are very close and the 9500pro,9600pro and 5600 are close.

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6790821" target="_new"> MY RIG </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1065087" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
 120% overclocker (cheapskate)

davepermen · Jul 28, 2003

RAMPAGE FOR EVER!!

what a piece of ****...

"take a look around" - limp bizkit

www.google.com

speeduk · Jul 28, 2003

Excuse me? Sorry for stating what the first 10 reviews I came across on the net revealed....

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6790821" target="_new"> MY RIG </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1065087" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
 120% overclocker (cheapskate)

TheGreatGrapeApe · Jul 28, 2003

Well here's a recent <A HREF="http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/radeon/r9800pro-ue.html" target="_new">GOOD REVIEW</A> comparing the two (passively cooled Sapphire R9800Pro in this case) at Digit-Life. I don't think I've seen ANY recent reviews that put the FX5900U above the R9800Pro all the time, I'd say the end result is always R9800P >=< FX5900U. One wins test A loses test B ties test C, etc.
The only thing that is clear to me, is that they are both very close, and it will be more test/game specifics or brand specifics that will be the best determinant of which is best for a particular user/buyer. That and whatever looks coolest in your rig. I say go for the Hercules R9800P, can't beat a Blue LED on Blue PCB!

- You need a licence to buy a gun, but they'll sell anyone a stamp (or internet account) ! <A HREF="http://www.redgreen.com" target="_new">RED GREEN</A> GA to SK :evil:

shadus · Jul 28, 2003

[Remove nasty things because I'm in a bad mood.]Edited by Shadus on 07/28/03 08:19 AM.

davepermen · Jul 28, 2003

i just clicked the bottommost user to add myself to the list of ones posting into this thread..

if you don't know what RAMPAGE is, go into the other thread

and i refered to te rampage when i said "what a piece of ...."

btw, myself, i'd go for ati. but i think you all know that yet

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www.google.com

daddywags214 · Jul 28, 2003

I think he thought you were talking about him. Hah! Anyway, I'd definitely go ATi 9800P 128mb.

Check <A HREF="http://pricewatch.com" target="_new">http://pricewatch.com</A>, you can pick up a 9800 Pro for about $350.

$500 5900u = $500 9800P 256 = $350 9800P 128 > $350 5900

These days, no matter what company you like, be it nVidia, ATi, or whatever, no matter how logical your reasons, you're labeled an idiot or a fanboy, or both.

flamethrower205 · Jul 28, 2003

Just go with the cheaper GF, ya save $40 bucks. Otherwise, just flip a coin and see which one wins, it's all good.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

daddywags214 · Jul 28, 2003

<A HREF="http://pricewatch.com" target="_new">http://pricewatch.com</A> $330 Radeon 9800 Pro 128

These days, no matter what company you like, be it nVidia, ATi, or whatever, no matter how logical your reasons, you're labeled an idiot or a fanboy, or both.

flamethrower205 · Jul 28, 2003

Ok fool, but I ain't buying one from the guy dressed in black who comes around the corner at night after 12....may not have the best rep. Newegg has a 9800 pro for a few bucks more expensive than a 5900, and perhaps he is using a different dealer.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

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