need help w/ 9600pro

[Marvelii]

I recently bought a 9600pro and whenever i play games the whole screen just messes up with visual artifacts and then it locks up. what should i do? please help!

Shuttle SN45G
Athlon XP 3200+
FN45 nForce 2 Ultra 400 MCPT
512mb PC3200 Corsair
Apollo Devil Monster 3 Radeon 9600pro
WD 160gb HDD
TOshiba dvd-R

 

[Flinx]

Maybe this? What's your power supply?
<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=361129#361129" target="_new">http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=361129#361129</A>

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[Marvelii]

i have a 200 watt PSU that came with the shuttle XPC. this is the reason i actually bought a 9600pro instead of the 9500pro because of heat and power.

Shuttle SN45G
Athlon XP 3200+
FN45 nForce 2 Ultra 400 MCPT
512mb PC3200 Corsair
Apollo Devil Monster 3 Radeon 9600pro
WD 160gb HDD
TOshiba dvd-R

 

[Marvelii]

is there anything else i can do to fix this problem? or is it definitly the PSU thats causing it?

Shuttle SN45G
Athlon XP 3200+
FN45 nForce 2 Ultra 400 MCPT
512mb PC3200 Corsair
Apollo Devil Monster 3 Radeon 9600pro
WD 160gb HDD
TOshiba dvd-R

 

[addiarmadar]

My god get a bigger PSU like at least 350, 400 preferable.

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[Flinx]

You can try

a) Updating the (without the card in place)
i) bios
ii) chipset drivers.
iii) other patches.
<A HREF="http://www.shuttle.com/new/support/download/download.asp" target="_new">http://www.shuttle.com/new/support/download/download.asp</A>
<A HREF="http://www.shuttle.com/new/support/download/dwn.asp" target="_new">http://www.shuttle.com/new/support/download/dwn.asp</A>
Note: you may have to remove the present drivers, fix the bios not to use the card (maybe even remove it).

b) After the graphics card is installed get the latest stable or MS approved drivers for card.

If that doesn't do it, you may be able to fix the problem with a larger powersupply. But add your numbers first and see just how likely it is (I didn't do it for u) or wait for more answers/clarification.

I don't know if that, new PSU, will lead to a heat problem though since the case is so small, maybe buy a powersupply with that in mind. If you do buy one, do try to make sure that things are compatible with ur case/system. There may be special PSU's/considerations for the Shuttle systems.
<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1841" target="_new">http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1841</A>

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The loving are the daring!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Flinx on 08/02/03 07:53 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Crashman]

You bought it, I told you not to, now live with it. You should try underclocking everything so you can drop the voltages and power consumption.

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[AMD_Man]

My guess is that XP3200+ is using too much power for the PSU to handle.

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[Toester]

hey, read a lot of posts in this forum, and I am almost positive that your psu is at fault, a 300-350 would be more in line, like others are suggesting!!!!!

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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

People,people; remember he's using a Shuttle. There's LITTLE option for PSU upgrade, you can't just slap an ATX PSU in there. And I haven't heard of a PSU for a shuttle above the 250W one that comes with some of the newer P4 models. It may indeed be the problem but there is no easy FIX for a Shuttle. The other problem is that you have a small numer of VERY power hungry items, it will be hard to disable something to reduce power load. If possible I'd disable the DVD-R (unplug power and ide-ribbon cable). That should reduce power consumption by a SMALL amount and hopefully give an indication of whether there is improvement ot be had from more power. Also try underclocking like Crash suggested that'll help a little too.

Marvelii, I would also watch for heat, one thing the SHUTTLE doesn't do well is dissipate heat since it uses a heat pipe setup and is very cramped, you may need to fill that PCI slot with an exhaust fan. Check your temps.

Other than that it's just a guessing game from here.


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[Marvelii]

i tried patches and new drivers that didnt work. i even unplugged my dvdr didnt work either. lowered the core/mem didnt work. im going to try it in my old system with the kt3 ultra, 2200+ and 420 wat psu. i read in many forums that people with a shuttle had like two hdds and a radeon 9700. thats why i couldnt understand why my 9600 pro acted like that. neways ima try it in my old sys. thanx everyone for your advice. ill post the outcome.

Shuttle SN45G
Athlon XP 3200+
FN45 nForce 2 Ultra 400 MCPT
512mb PC3200 Corsair
Apollo Devil Monster 3 Radeon 9600pro
WD 160gb HDD
TOshiba dvd-R

 

[Marvelii]

well the results are in. i tried it in my old system. i ran 3dmark 2001 it started showing artifacts during game 3 then in nature it locked up. i ran 3dmark 2003 and started the artifacts in game 1 and locked up in the battle of proxycon. i think i may have a defective card. im goin to RMA the card. there still may be a chance for my shuttle. wat do you guys think?

Shuttle SN45G
Athlon XP 3200+
FN45 nForce 2 Ultra 400 MCPT
512mb PC3200 Corsair
Apollo Devil Monster 3 Radeon 9600pro
WD 160gb HDD
TOshiba dvd-R

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Well that's sounds about right.
You don't want to know what I think of shuttles (mainly that they are for small ICP use only). I prefer the <A HREF="http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=M&Category_Code=hornet" target="_new">Monarch Hornet</A> for small form factor. Has additional PCI slots (handy for AGP space and for upgrades (1 free, and then an Audigy + TVtuner card)

But anyways, I think you've found the problem, hopefully a new card will perform better. Good Luck!



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[Marvelii]

thanx everyone for your input.

Shuttle SN45G
Athlon XP 3200+
FN45 nForce 2 Ultra 400 MCPT
512mb PC3200 Corsair
Apollo Devil Monster 3 Radeon 9600pro
WD 160gb HDD
TOshiba dvd-R