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Manufacturer of graphics card make a difference?

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August 8, 2003 8:13:52 AM

How important is the manufacturer of a graphics card? Do they ever change the actual make-up of the chipsets? I do not overclock, as I do not know how to do so and I also am not comfortable overclocking anything, so I don't have to worry about that issue....Specifically I am looking at GeForceFX chipsets if that matters. I also like the 9600. Could anyone reccomend good manufacturers as well as where to find them? Any light on the this subject would be much appreciated! Thanks!

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a b U Graphics card
August 8, 2003 8:40:31 AM

The partnersmake a big difference in the board design. Nothin to do with the CHIPS. IBM or Taiwan-Semi make the chips to exacting detail.
The board makers might put lesser ram, underclock the core, or put cheaper parts on than the reference card (XFX, Powercolor), or they may ADD features (Gainward,Hercules)

For the FXs I would recomend Gainward, ASUS and BFG, for the R9600P I ould recommend ATI (built by ATI), Hercules, Creative and Gigabyte (not gigacube stay away from them).


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August 8, 2003 9:42:56 AM

On the other hand i have seen an Ati card that has had the sticker changed and the packaging and nothing else, except a lower price. Most often the board and clock are identical, and features are changed, whatch for diff. speeds in ram. There are some bargains out their just do some research first.

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August 10, 2003 3:16:59 AM

have you heard Inno3d cards for geforce4 ti. are they good manufacturers?, because there boards are cheaper than any board makers i know.

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August 10, 2003 3:53:52 AM

their not that great of a company AFAIK

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August 10, 2003 5:06:03 AM

<b>well i should really avoid them now!!!!!</b>

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August 10, 2003 8:58:42 AM

If you want nVidia then go with LeadTek, excellent speed, tuning, and reliability.

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August 14, 2003 3:36:59 AM

hey, den is it ok to go BFG as well to get the ti4200 128mb 8X ?

coz tts the cheapest stuff i cld find at 110.. .. any other suggestions?
a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2003 9:49:22 AM

BFG is a good maker, and the GF4ti 4200 is a good card for your price-point. I'd stick with that unless you are willing to spend a little bit more and get into the FX5600Ultra and R9600Pro range of cards.


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August 14, 2003 3:29:25 PM

not tt im picking at lint, but phial and cool squirtle both flamed BFG.. cool says they use cheap ram, and phial said Inno3d which is even cheaper at 98 to be better than bfg..

so wadya think? personally im kinda swayed by the lifetime warranty by bfg though..
August 14, 2003 5:56:00 PM

wat abt chaintech? and prolink and albatron? these are retail boxed..

the bfg at 109 i saw was an oem..

wats the diff between retail and oem? other than all the software etc, does oem gives any eh.. cable or watsoeva ? is there any major catch i shld be aware of?

thank you
August 14, 2003 6:19:04 PM

OEM is what manufacturers give to retailers in bulk. In otherwords, those that sell the product buy 100 of a product at a reduced cost than just one. The OEM product comes without the small bells and whistles meaning it comes with 'barebones' requirements <i>most</i> of the time. I have gotten a full package a time or two via OEM purchases...in those cases I was lucky.

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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2003 9:51:30 PM

From what I've seen they've reviewed very well. However if someone has personal experience with them, then go with what they say. The impression I got is that they weren't bad, but maybe that's their new cards, and they have a bad history that others know of.
A good warranty is always a good thing. Check a few more reviews, thake what phial and coolS said to heart, they know their $h1t too, and I'm but one voice (don't trust just one voice/person). Do little more homework (check [H]'s new archive for links to BFG reviews of the card you want, check google. Then take all you've learned and make a decision.

Good Luck! I know it's 'fun' from experience. :wink:

Edit: Chaintech and Albatron have reviewed well, I haven't seen much of Prolink.
As for OEM there is also another side to that (TKS provided the main info). Technically all of ATI's partners are OEMs and so are all of nV card makers. What you are likley seeing is the commong use of the term OEM to mean white-box/plastic bag OEM, which mean it doesn't come in the 'retail' box with all the nice frilly colours, etc. sometimes/ many times, it will also come with the bare minimum of accesories often and even a crippled software package (not providing DVD viewing etc [whihc can de disabled/re-enabled later]), however sometimes it comes with everything, and it's just a returned item that they can't resell as new and didn't get returned with a box. Check the contents before buying to be sure you get what you want/need.


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August 14, 2003 10:33:35 PM

How is MSI?? im not looking to overclock, just for a good, reliable card.
August 14, 2003 10:53:59 PM

The OEM of ATI Id trust is Hercules.

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August 14, 2003 11:50:46 PM

True, but some OEM's sell deluxe kits with lots of games and features.

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August 15, 2003 2:06:43 AM

ok. .. i tried contactign the suppliers for the BFG card i found but they didnt reply, mind helping me take a look at the webpage to see if its missing anything i really need?i don really need any software or wat..

http://www.shentech.com/bfgasgeti12d.html

tnx

and regarding albatron, do u noe wat the Albatron TI4280EP 128MB DDR Retail - Full Item Specifications

TI4280EP mean anything? coz i remember albatron uses EP n P to signify something but i cldnt find anythnig abt it

i cldnt get the link to chaintech to work from pricewatch.com so still hav no info on them..

tnx again
a b U Graphics card
August 15, 2003 10:16:18 AM

Well the BFG card seems to be within spec. <A HREF="http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2002q2/geforce4-ti42..." target="_new">SEE HERE</A>. It doesn't seems to come with many extras, but that's to be expected and do you really need copies of old games, and cables you can buy if you REALLY need them? It should come with all the drivers, and they are also availible from the MFR and nV.

From what I've been able to see (from Albatron's site) the <A HREF="http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/it/vga/specification..." target="_new">EP</A> has just a VGA connector and TV-out, and the <A HREF="http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/it/vga/specification..." target="_new">P</A> has both DVI and VGA + TV. The strange thing is that everywhere I've seen them the P goes for less than the EP. I don't get it, the P seems to have added features like (DVI), and includes 2 games.

<A HREF="http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gf4/gf4ti4200-7.htm..." target="_new">Here</A>'s a review of the Chaintech GF4ti4200 8X from Digit-Life (along with others).
<A HREF="http://overclockercafe.com/Reviews/VGA/Chaintech_A-GX20..." target="_new">Another review</A> from Overclocker Cafe (puts in question the Overclockability.

Ok, that should do, anymore research on my part and I will have to charge an hourly rate! :wink:


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August 15, 2003 3:39:05 PM

ok.. like to reaffirm something, most of the benchmarks have the 64mb version edgin over the 128mb version becoz of its 500mhz clocked memory, but then again i read in this forum somewhere that it says when at 8X, the 128mb will win over this 444mhz handicap.. is it true?

regarding albatron, i read through the stuff, from wat i understand the dvi is another connector to let u hook up a n lcd monitor, am i right? BUT, i tried from newegg.com and pricewatch.com, the P are more expensive than the EPs? where did you get ur prices from?

hmm, chaintech looks alrite coz it has the vga,vivo and the dvi plus i can get it retail at 113

im not into overclocking so its alrite for me.. :) 

sad to say, i cldnt get any information from the chaintech review coz it was more technical dan i cld take :)  all i cld understand was the conclusion part :) 

so right now, the chaintech retail, the bfp oem and/or the albatron P if u can find the cheaper version for me.. i'll choose from one of them..

gtg.. tnx again ape :) 
a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2003 1:01:03 PM

Likely the 8X makes noe diff. the core/memory speeds are the most important thing there, the card is not pushing faster than te 4X bus, so I doubt that makes any diff.

The prices for the EP/P I found were from Ibuyernet.com (first one that came up in google):

<A HREF="http://www.ibuyernet.com/prod~id~440393~Albatron_TI4280..." target="_new">EP</A>
<A HREF="http://www.ibuyernet.com/prod~id~440079~Albatron_TI4280..." target="_new">P</A>

I don't know if they are god prices, just the ones I found.

Chaintech will be a good choice. Enjoy!



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