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I have a Palm Treo and 2 PCs that is synchs with. When I hot sync with PC 1
and then do another hotsync with PC2 - the ALTERNATE hotsyncs always take a
very long time. Hot syncs on the same PC are always quick as you know.

Is there some way of tricking the PALM into thinking that it is SYNCing with
the same PC? Perhaps just copy a particular file that is onvolved in the
hotsync process?

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jm7 wrote:

> I have a Palm Treo and 2 PCs that is synchs with. When I hot sync with PC
> 1 and then do another hotsync with PC2 - the ALTERNATE hotsyncs always
> take a
> very long time. Hot syncs on the same PC are always quick as you know.
>
> Is there some way of tricking the PALM into thinking that it is SYNCing
> with
> the same PC? Perhaps just copy a particular file that is involved in the
> hotsync process?

have you tried forcing HotSync to always go in one direction? For example,
have you considered setting HotSync Manager to "handheld overwrites
desktop"? I am not sure it would 'blind' HotSync to the fact that two
computers exist, but it might do the trick. You then need to be cautious
and observant whenever editing your data in Palm Desktop. You can always
change the HoySync settings without affecting the default configuration.

Roy

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:01:08 GMT, "jm7" <not_real_address@ht.com> was
understood to have stated the following:

>I have a Palm Treo and 2 PCs that is synchs with. When I hot sync with PC 1
>and then do another hotsync with PC2 - the ALTERNATE hotsyncs always take a
>very long time. Hot syncs on the same PC are always quick as you know.

Of course. The process of synchronizing your PDA with the last PC it
was synchronized with is known as a fast sync, otherwise it's a slow
sync. From the developer documentation from Palm for writing conduits:

Fast and Slow Synchronization
The HotSync process is designed for maximum efficiency, which
means minimizing the data that needs to be transferred whenever
possible. HotSync Manager accomplishes this by using two forms of
record-level synchronization:
• Fast sync, or fast synchronization of records, sends data
between the handheld and desktop only if a change has
occurred since the most recent synchronization. Fast sync
should not transfer records that have not been modified.
• Slow sync, or slow synchronization of records, is used in
situations in which fast synchronization is not possible. This
happens when the record status flags on the handheld cannot
be reliably used because the desktop computer and handheld
were not most recently synchronized with each other. Slow
sync compares each record in the handheld database with the
corresponding record on the desktop computer to determine
how to synchronize the records.
HotSync Manager automatically determines which synchronization
form is appropriate, and communicates this to each conduit upon
invocation.
Is Fast Sync Possible?
HotSync Manager retrieves the user ID and the PC ID of the most
recent synchronization from the handheld. It compares these values
with the values stored on the desktop computer. If the PC ID values
match, then conduits can perform a fast sync, meaning that they can
depend on the modification flag in each record to determine
whether the record requires synchronizing. Figure 4.3 shows how
HotSync Manager determines whether conduits can perform a fast
sync.

>Is there some way of tricking the PALM into thinking that it is SYNCing with
>the same PC? Perhaps just copy a particular file that is onvolved in the
>hotsync process?

If there was a way to trick the Palm into thinking a different PC is
the one to be synchronized with, it wouldn't be a wise thing to do. At
least, not if the data you're synchronizing is important to you.

As another person mentioned, if you want to minimize your first sync
at a computer that's different than the last one you've synced with,
set the actions (BUT NOT THE DEFAULTS!) of EACH of the conduits to
"Handheld overwrites desktop." Of course, make sure there are no
edits on the "new" desktop that you want to keep, because they most
certainly will be lost.

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David W. Poole, Jr. wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:01:08 GMT, "jm7" <not_real_address@ht.com> was
> understood to have stated the following:
>
>>I have a Palm Treo and 2 PCs that is synchs with. When I hot sync with PC
>>1 and then do another hotsync with PC2 - the ALTERNATE hotsyncs always
>>take a
>>very long time. Hot syncs on the same PC are always quick as you know.
>
> Of course. The process of synchronizing your PDA with the last PC it
> was synchronized with is known as a fast sync, otherwise it's a slow
> sync. From the developer documentation from Palm for writing conduits:
>
> Fast and Slow Synchronization
> The HotSync process is designed for maximum efficiency, which
> means minimizing the data that needs to be transferred whenever
> possible. HotSync Manager accomplishes this by using two forms of
> record-level synchronization:
> • Fast sync, or fast synchronization of records, sends data
> between the handheld and desktop only if a change has
> occurred since the most recent synchronization. Fast sync
> should not transfer records that have not been modified.
> • Slow sync, or slow synchronization of records, is used in
> situations in which fast synchronization is not possible. This
> happens when the record status flags on the handheld cannot
> be reliably used because the desktop computer and handheld
> were not most recently synchronized with each other. Slow
> sync compares each record in the handheld database with the
> corresponding record on the desktop computer to determine
> how to synchronize the records.
> HotSync Manager automatically determines which synchronization
> form is appropriate, and communicates this to each conduit upon
> invocation.
> Is Fast Sync Possible?
> HotSync Manager retrieves the user ID and the PC ID of the most
> recent synchronization from the handheld. It compares these values
> with the values stored on the desktop computer. If the PC ID values
> match, then conduits can perform a fast sync, meaning that they can
> depend on the modification flag in each record to determine
> whether the record requires synchronizing. Figure 4.3 shows how
> HotSync Manager determines whether conduits can perform a fast
> sync.


You hit two bird with one stone. This explains why I sometimes get a slower
HotSync process. My Windows 98 laptop is used for HotSync and it only has
32 megabytes of RAM, which gives you a rough idea of the need for
efficiency. It wasn't long ago that I disabled synchronisation of all
applications apart from a few that I actively use.


>>Is there some way of tricking the PALM into thinking that it is SYNCing
>>with
>>the same PC? Perhaps just copy a particular file that is onvolved in the
>>hotsync process?
>
> If there was a way to trick the Palm into thinking a different PC is
> the one to be synchronized with, it wouldn't be a wise thing to do. At
> least, not if the data you're synchronizing is important to you.
>
> As another person mentioned, if you want to minimize your first sync
> at a computer that's different than the last one you've synced with,
> set the actions (BUT NOT THE DEFAULTS!) of EACH of the conduits to
> "Handheld overwrites desktop." Of course, make sure there are no
> edits on the "new" desktop that you want to keep, because they most
> certainly will be lost.


This appears to offer an unsafe solution that is troublesome over the long
run. I suggest that the OP learns to tolerate the slow HotSync or give up
one of the synchronisation nodes (desktops). Multiple desktops are better
off avoided where possible, also when it comes to general filesystem
management. Bookmarks, domains, E-mail and so forth likewise.

Roy

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http://Schestowitz.com