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I know, what WAS up with those crosshairs in the photos?
Now, that show was 98.726% garbage. A lot of their reasoning was just plain stupid. They even contradicted their own reasoning a few times.
But, there were some tiny valid points hidden in there that do make one wonder.
Personally, I believe what actually happened is that NASA did send send people to the moon a few times, but maybe not EVERY time. And that some of the footage was faked because the actual footage looked like crap and they needed to give the public something to see, otherwise no one would believe it really happened. So fake footage was made up to add to the real footage.
That's what I think happened.
But anyone with half a brain watching that show should be able to sit down and explain away most of the cases that they made for it on that show. They had some truely stupid points.
But just because the show was poorly put together doesn't mean that there isn't some interesting evidence pointing to the possability that at least some of the video footage was faked by NASA.
-I no longer talk to stupid people. They just aren't worth taking the time to talk to. 
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P.S. Maybe the whole thing was a giant NASA conspiracy. Even if it was, so what? We have the technology today to go to the moon if we really wanted to put the resources into it. So does it really make any difference either way?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by slvr_phoenix on 03/22/01 04:17 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
First off I have no doubt that we went to the moon. The astronauts placed a reflector on the moon so that we could acurately measure the distance. Unless the US is so stupid that it is willing to compromise the last 40 years and 400 billion dollars worth of scientific research, I just have to believe that we went. It costs a billion each time the launch the shuttle. The same is true for all of the moon debris that we brought home...
Regarding the footage being somewhat faked you have an interesting point, but I would just tend to agree that it probably was a chronology problem and an editing problem if nothing else. Even if some of it was faked, wouldn't it have leaked by now? It seems fairly obvious that people will find out rather quickly when we go there regularely in the future. What about the satellites we have had orbit the moon...are there no pictures of what we left behind? I would think there are. I realize that most instrumentation would burn up if you looked at the moon (ground based telescopes and hubble for ex), but surely this conspiracy could be put to rest if anyone really cared...
Regarding having the technology to go there now; we actually don't. We would have to invest billions more to prepare for another landing. At least that's what they say, but that might be all part of the conspiracy 
My favorite part of that show was when the guy said "the most convincing evidence we have is that you can hear the astronaut speaking over the LOUD engines" I was laughing so hard that the tears were flowing...LOL
Or what about the fact that humans can't exist in space. So all of our space walks are fake? The hubble and ISS is fake? It's all a big conspiracy... That old guy probably has a t-shirt shop out in the middle of the desert that he has to keep popular
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Hey, I agree. I never even suggested that we didn't go to the moon.
I merely suggest the possability that NASA faked <i>some</i>of the video footage because some of the real footage may have been of a very poor quality. Or that <i>some</i> of the missions were less successful and needed to be faked so that NASA could convince the US that the space program was all well and good even if it was running into occasional problems.
But I don't for a second suggest that man never walked on the moon.
-I no longer talk to stupid people. They just aren't worth taking the time to talk to.
I agree that it seems pretty obvious that man has indeed gone to the moon. There's just too much supporting it to believe otherwise.
And it's possible that the videos were funky because of bad editing jobs and being put in the wrong chronological order. Though the things like the mysterious vanishing lander were odd. When they did the videos superimposed on each other and they looked like exactly the same backdrops but with different props in the foreground, that was just odd. I think there is enough evidence there to believe in the possability that some of the videos may have indeed been faked. That or every place on the moon looks alike. Heh heh.
Definitely though, if someone were to truely desire putting the conspiracy to rest, it wouldn't take much. It would possibly cost a fortune, but the technology is there. All that would have to be done is find one of the landers on the moon and take a photo of it. A simple satellite could do that.
And I'm sure that we do have the technology to go to the moon, but it would take putting together a few things to do it. But the rocket technology, the radiation proofing, the navigational systems, the portable environment technology, it's all there. We'd just have to modify a shuttle to hell and back, or build some sort of new shuttle/rocket.
It could be done. It would just cost a lot. And at the moment, it would be a relatively pointless endevor since, in theory, we really don't have anything new to learn about on the moon.
I found it immensely funny though that one of the conspiracy's points was that the government is safe because we never intend to go back to the moon. I couldn't believe my ears, since I've seen the science magazines and blueprints for lunar habitats and heard people talk about the research that is going into the colonization of the moon and Mars.
My favorite part of the show was when they were talking about how the landers were so unstable when tested in Earth's atmosphere, but they worked perfectly when landing on the moon. I was just astounded at how stupid a person would have to be to use that as an argument. Considering how much lower the gravity is there on the moon, and the lack of atmosphere, it's no wonder that the lander was able maneuver so much more effectively. **ROFL** People would have to have been executed if it wasn't a more stable craft on the moon than in our atmosphere.
-I no longer talk to stupid people. They just aren't worth taking the time to talk to.
All I have to say in response to that is this:
The exiting of Earth's gravitational pull is the most difficult part of space travel. Once outside of that pull, the near zero-gs allow craft to travel with virtually no fuel because there are virtually no forces to impede their forward velocity.
With that said, all that is needed to travel to the moon is a space craft capable of leaving the Earth's atmosphere with enough food, oxygen, radiation shielding, and fuel to travel to the moon. To land on the moon also would, of course, require a small lunar lander type craft.
Once you can get this cargo outside of Earth's gravity, fuel is hardly even an option to worry about, when compared to the rest of the task.
Man had the rocket technology to send cargo of this weight outside of Earth's atmosphere. Man had the technology to store enough food, water, and air for the time that they would need to go to the moon and back.
So if man had the technology needed to get through the hard parts of space travel, why would anyone bother faking the rest of it when it's all a piece of cake from there anyway?
-I no longer talk to stupid people. They just aren't worth taking the time to talk to.
Well of course.
But HAD anything been faked, there would of course have to be drama every so often. Otherwise the general public would get bored.
After all, humankind is destructive by nature. We don't want to see success. We want to see horrible bloody gruesome failure.
So all of those successful moon trips got boring and NASA set it up so that we'd have a little more excitement in our TV viewing.
Come on, if there were no such things as conspiracies, the world would be a very dull place to live in.
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