radeon 9500pro vs. radeon 9600pro 256MB

[deadfuse]

Ok, from everything I've read, the Radeon 9500 pro outperforms the 128mb Radeon 9600 pro. How does the 256mb Radeon 9600 pro compare to the 9500pro?

 

[redstar]

are you sure baout the first statement?

http://firingsquad.gamers.com/print_article.asp?current_section=Hardware&fs_article_id=1229

depends on res/game/ AA

 

[lhgpoobaa]

Do you realise that just adding more ram doesnt improve performance much if the speed is still the same?

Only in select cases where ALOT of ram is in use do you get a small performance boost.


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[Spitfire_x86]

Radeon 9500 Pro 128 MB will be better.

I get angry when I see people judging graphics card by the ammount of VRAM

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[mrface]

9500pro doesnt outperform the 9600pro...
and 9600pro has dx9

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[redstar]

i say read the link i posted...

and ya, all 9xxx cards are fully DX 9 compliant.

 

[phial]

I get angry when I see people judging graphics card by the ammount of VRAM

me too!


gotta love those 256meg 5200nonultras, and 128meg GF2MX400s


the 9500pro is a better card. its basically a 9700 with a 128 bit memory bus, wheras the 9600pro has half the piplines, half the pixel and vertex shaders


in HL2 and other shader heavy games, itll make a large difference ill bet 200$

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[phial]

i say read the link i posted...

and ya, all 9xxx cards are fully DX 9 compliant.

before you come giving advise on video cards, atleast know what they are


teh 9100, 9000 and 9200 are only DX8.1 compliant

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[Crashman]

9500 Pro also has DX9, 8 pipelines, and in fact uses the 9700 chip.

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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Man, reading this in the daytime keeps me out of these discussions 'til it's over. DANG!

The R9600Pro CAN outperform and R9500PRo, but that's overclocked like a Banshee, or like ME, however that is NOT guaranteed by any means, in fact more of the recents boards have DECENT overclocking, not the AWESOME overclocking of the oriinal releases.

In the end don't rely on overclocking it's a bonus, and not guaranteed.


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[redstar]

"before you come giving advise on video cards, atleast know what they are


teh 9100, 9000 and 9200 are only DX8.1 compliant"

yup sorry...didn't even know about those...
they not listed in the gamer section of ati.

you be right, they are not Dx9

 

[phial]

np =)

its just that people sometimes spend money based on whats said here , you know..

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[cleeve]

I think it's safe to say that about 80% of the time a 9500 PRO will beat a 9600 PRO, and about 80% of the time an overclocked 9500 PRO will beat an overclocked 9600 PRO.

That's why I advocate the 9500 PRO. And also, more importantly... as we will soon see... I suspect that shadow-heavy games like Doom3 and Half-Life 2 will really take advantage of those extra four pipelines, and the 9500 PRO will leave the 9600 PRO in the dust...

But we'll see.

In the meantime, 256 MB only helps at uberhigh resolutions when you're using Antialiassing (resolutions too high for the 9600 PRO to use AA at anyway) or in future games where the texture map set will be more than 128 megs (a couple years at least).

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[redstar]

is ati still making the ati 9500 pro?

these things still on sale where you can unlock the 4 extra pipelines?

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or is it the 9500 that has 4 pipelines with potential to unlock another 4..

and the 9500 pro has all 8 pipelines but a 128 bit mem interface instead of the 256 bit of the higher cards?

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i've read many articles on this subject...and got alot of conflicting info.

so now i'm confused

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ya ok that's what i thought..ATI lists the 9500 series as discontinued. I've only seen one store still offering the ati 9500 in my area.

the pro has all 8 pipelines

and its the non pro that can be boosted frpom 4 pipelines to 8.

Is this all ati 9500's ...or just the first "batch" sent to reviewers intially??
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by redstar on 09/05/03 03:49 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[cleeve]

1. 9500 PROs are out of production.

2. 9500 PROS have 8 pipes, 9500 non-pros have 4 enabled and 4 disabled.

3. All 9500 non-pros can be modded to have 8 pipelines ***BUT*** the mod fails at least half the time, probably more. SO it's a big gamble.
Don't do it unless you're a betting man.

9600 PRO is the safe way to go.

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[daddywags214]

<Agreed.>

It's not like the 9600 Pro is a dismal performer, not by any means. Some people think the 9500 Pro's superiority is more cut and dried than it really is. The 9500 Pro has several advantages, and thus, has increased performance in certain situations. But, given the higher clocks, the 9600 Pro excels in certain (albeit fewer) situations.

I have a 9600 Pro, and it serves me well. 9600Ps are cheaper and easier to find than 9500Pros too, for that matter.

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