Going to play around with my 9800pro

scottchen · Sep 11, 2003

I'm a little annoyed at the ZM80A-HP because it doesn't allow me to use my new Tweakmonster ramsinks, I was wandering is it possible for me to use AS3 Thermal epoxy to attach the Zalman CNPS7000-CU to the GPU, I know it's a monster it's about 750grams. I'm just not sure if my card will stay in the AGP slot or would it snap off? Somebody please help.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

scottchen · Sep 11, 2003

Help me pretty please with sugar on top.

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lhgpoobaa · Sep 11, 2003

Yikes... thats alot of weight.
Not only do you have to worry about bending the card/damaging the slot but also damaging the core.

Will you be just gluing it to the core alone or that support frame around it?

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speeduk · Sep 11, 2003

Be happy with what you've got and dont risk messing it up! Your card will last you a good year or more... Unless you have the money to replace it if things go wrong.

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scottchen · Sep 11, 2003

I removed the shim already. So it'll be attached just to the core.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

scottchen · Sep 11, 2003

Damn it oh well I guess now i have to return my Tweakmonster ramsinks, because the ZM80A-HP won't give me enough space to install them.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

scottchen · Sep 11, 2003

How much weight do you think the core can hold?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

scottchen · Sep 12, 2003

Anybody knows?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

lhgpoobaa · Sep 12, 2003

well not that much!
it all depends on die size and how the core is mounted.

Bear in mind the core was NEVER supposed to be a structual object!!!
that was the purpose of the shim thinggy.

Too much weight you can damage the core or rip it off entirely.
The problem is i dont think anyone know how much "too much weight" is.

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scottchen · Sep 12, 2003

I'm going to reattach my shim on my 9800pro what should i use Arctic Alumina epoxy? Since it's not conductive?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

lhgpoobaa · Sep 12, 2003

i dont THINK its conductive in its cured form...
Though it would be best to check first with the AS website.

For reattaching the shim i would just use a sparing amount of normal epoxy resin. Avoid the issue alltogether.

onlyuse the AS epoxy for the bits that NEED thermal transfer.

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I am not a ATI fanboy.
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And a low price fanboy.

Regards,
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scottchen · Sep 12, 2003

Ok thanks man.

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Crashman · Sep 14, 2003

I'll help you out. But you have to promise to listen!

Use a smaller CPU cooler. Think adequate! It seems to me that a PIII 1U rackmount cooler would be about perfect, with around 2x the capacity of the stock fan and 4x the surface area of the stock sink, the weight would be acceptable, and it would only block off 1 slot below the card!

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scottchen · Sep 14, 2003

Ok, I'm listening, so just wandering do you think the SK6+ is still too heavy?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

scottchen · Sep 14, 2003

Also I have a LOT of airflow on my video card, so the reason y I'm switching from the ZM80A-HP is because I want to use the Tweakmonster ramsinks. Basically I'm looking for something that's about the same performance as the ZM80A-HP(with 4 fans 2 on plates and 2 blowing through).

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

Willamette_sucks · Sep 14, 2003

Boy you are crazy. I have a volcano 10 on my 9800 Pro (soon ill put a diff. fan on it) which is more than adequate for HUGE overclocks. It weighs about 285 grams i think, I'm not sure how much the sk-6 weighs (more than that I know), but the zalman weighs more than TWICE as much! Get real dude.
My card is already bending in the slot (a little) with the volcano 10 and the tweakmonster ramsinks. Get ready for your computer to EXPLODE if you put anything much bigger on there.

Oh, and use Artic Silver Thermal Epoxy, WAY better than the Alumina garbage. (Just look up the heat-transfer properties of these metals: silver, platinum, aluminum, copper...)

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scottchen · Sep 14, 2003

When did you get the idea that i wasn't crazy at overclocking? I've killed my 9500pro and 9800pro once alrdy. Also killed my 1.2G Duron and 1700+. And 3 Power supplies. Also a pair of 2x256 pc2100 ram.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

scottchen · Sep 14, 2003

And the SK6+ weighs 382 grams without fan.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

scottchen · Sep 14, 2003

Hey I broke a lot of stuff but always got my money back in some way. Except for my Duron

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Crashman · Sep 14, 2003

Try one and tell me! LOL!

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scottchen · Sep 14, 2003

Ok, you guys scared me, I think i'll just do what Willamette did, get a Volcano 10 and attach a YS tech TMD fan on it. hey Willamette how is the Volcano 10 is it any good? I thought copper was suppose to be heavy but it seems on the Volcano 10 it's only 285 grams with fan.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

Crashman · Sep 15, 2003

I simply don't see the point of anything larger than a PIII low profile cooler. I mean, larger means more weight and more blocked slots. And I doubt additional cooling beyond what a low profile PIII cooler would provide would allow for higher clocks, as I expect the temps would be near ambient with one of these.

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scottchen · Sep 15, 2003

Ok crashman thanks for you tips, now comes the hard part I gotta find a P3 low profile cooler.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

Crashman · Sep 15, 2003

You mean like <A HREF="http://www.nexfan.com/aoclowpr1ura.html" target="_new">This little copper one</A>? Or <A HREF="http://www.nexfan.com/th1uramocofc.html" target="_new">This copper/aluminum one with a more powerfull fan</A>? Here's a <A HREF="http://www.nexfan.com/evp4so478low.html" target="_new">similar sized P4 unit with a bit more cooling</A>. And a <A HREF="http://www.nexfan.com/evcuallcocof.html" target="_new"> Xeon version</A>

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scottchen · Sep 15, 2003

Thx for the help crashman but I need to find some in Canada.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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