why do i say this u ask, well personally im not too keen on nvidia because lets face it ati wipes its ass all over it. i mean get a 9700 pro a card which is a year old and it beats nethin nvidia has to offer. This is the problem, ati simply has no competition, and without competition ati will not try and make bigger and better cards becuase theres no point. So if nvidia does come up with something good with competitive prices then we could soon be looking at alot faster cards alot more quicker.