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January 11, 2005 8:10:30 PM

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Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!

Dave

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Anonymous
January 11, 2005 8:27:16 PM

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"Mike" <BigDave@Home.com> wrote in message
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> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>
> Dave
>

How about a sledgehammer?

I can't imagine any one here taking this seriously and helping you defraud
your employer.
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 9:10:09 PM

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Using (insulated :)  needle nose pliers to short some mobo traces or IC
pins together might do it
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Anonymous
January 11, 2005 10:03:51 PM

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In article <s9j8u09k593egvd1ph9orso8af3m4cnch1@4ax.com>,
BigDave@Home.com says...
> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!

I had a similar problem many years back when I worked for a real estate
company.

In that case, I brought in my *personal* laptop which was a better
machine than the desktop they had me using and I "demonstrated" to them
how a faster machine increased my productivity. I was able to get a lot
more work done in the same amount of time and the increased productivity
reflected well on my boss to his boss. I had a new system within a
week.

If you don't have a laptop or you can't do the same demonstration, a
well written letter to your boss explaining how the better productivity
would be better for him/her might have the same effect.
January 11, 2005 10:06:15 PM

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:27:16 -0500, "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net>
wrote:

>
>"Mike" <BigDave@Home.com> wrote in message
>news:s9j8u09k593egvd1ph9orso8af3m4cnch1@4ax.com...
>> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
>> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
>> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
>> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
>> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
>> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
>> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
>> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
>> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
>> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>How about a sledgehammer?
>
>I can't imagine any one here taking this seriously and helping you defraud
>your employer.
>

It was more of joke than anything else but as I got to thinking about
it I was not sure how one might do so without totally destroying the
machine. It's a great system for spreadsheets and word processing
but just can't handle much more than that. Plus the IT Dept. does not
appear to care either way so I will continue to spend at least a good
60 min.a day re-booting, running winipcfg to release and renewing the
IP address so I can find files on the network, and loose work as the
system GPF's all the time. Basically it a total PITA but if they Boss
does not care why should I ? LOL!
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 10:28:26 PM

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You are there only for their benefit. Clearly in a 'tit for
tat' relationship, your only purpose here is to maximize YOUR
resume and maximize your education. If it was a productive
company (one concerned with their product and their
customers), then you would not be posting this story. It is a
company driven by the bean counter mentality. Employees are
are expense - not an asset.

In such environments, do not harm your resume. When bean
counters pretend to be managers, then employees work only for
themselves. Maximize your value so that you can find a real
employer. IOW you are, from one perspective, in a somewhat
enviable position. Take time to find a real job. In the
meantime concentrate on advancing yourself as much as possible
at their expense. But do not do physical damage. Do no
harm. Advance yourself before helping them. Be as selfish as
they are. But do no harm.

BTW, such computers tend to work up to 20% faster when
running Windows NT type OSes. Better would be to upgrade to
Windows NT 4.0. Then you are using something similar to
current technology (learning something useful) as well as
making hardware work a little faster.

Mike wrote:
> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>
> Dave
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 11:00:47 PM

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Mike <BigDave@Home.com> wrote:

>Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
>being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
>with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
>long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
>now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
>dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
>system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
>won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
>need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
>Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!

I would talk to the supervisor who writes my performance
evaluations/recommends raises/promotions/etc. Point out to
him/her "Hey, I don't want to be down-rated with a lousy
performance eval because of this @$*_+@*$# ancient machine you
have assigned me making me look bad. It takes me X hours a day
total of idle time at $YY.YY an hour waiting for Autocad to do z
minute redraws that would take z1 seconds on a modern machine
with decent RAM memory and a real graphics card. With what the
company would gain in my productivity in the first month you
could pay for three new computers.]

[Making sure, of course, that the math adds up in there;
otherwise, modify the "first month you could buy ..." number to
match the Dell you have your eye on.]
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]
Anonymous
January 12, 2005 1:23:07 AM

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Flash the BIOS and during the process power down.
"Mike" <BigDave@Home.com> wrote in message
news:s9j8u09k593egvd1ph9orso8af3m4cnch1@4ax.com...
> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>
> Dave
>
Anonymous
January 12, 2005 1:23:08 AM

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And make sure your resume is handy, as when they figure out you're flashing
the BIOS of your work machine, they'll fire you
"John Mai" <holycow@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Flash the BIOS and during the process power down.
> "Mike" <BigDave@Home.com> wrote in message
> news:s9j8u09k593egvd1ph9orso8af3m4cnch1@4ax.com...
>> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
>> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
>> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
>> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
>> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
>> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
>> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
>> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
>> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
>> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
>
Anonymous
January 12, 2005 5:47:43 AM

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w_tom wrote:
> BTW, such computers tend to work up to 20% faster when
> running Windows NT type OSes. Better would be to upgrade to
> Windows NT 4.0. Then you are using something similar to
> current technology (learning something useful) as well as
> making hardware work a little faster.

I would have to agree, look at a new OS that is more stable, if you can
get away with it, run Linux as even on old machines it doesn't crash
every 10 seconds. You'll be better off doing that than hurting hardware.
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Anonymous
January 12, 2005 9:13:09 AM

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if a pencil fell off your desk and lodged itself into the power supply fan
on the back of the system then the machine would overheat and either burn
out the powersupply or possibly the processor... when the computer people
come and replace the power supply with a generic one they will find that it
doesn't power the system since the dell ps has proprietary wiring (but a
standard connector)... then it would only be a matter of time before they
drag some other hand me down piece of junk from another department and
install it on your desk because they feel that someone else in the company
would benefit more from the new computer than you...

"Mike" <BigDave@Home.com> wrote in message
news:s9j8u09k593egvd1ph9orso8af3m4cnch1@4ax.com...
> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>
> Dave
>
January 12, 2005 9:26:02 PM

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Why dont you make a decent business plan as to why you should have an
updated machine??
"Mike" <BigDave@Home.com> wrote in message
news:s9j8u09k593egvd1ph9orso8af3m4cnch1@4ax.com...
> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>
> Dave
>
>
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 2:57:44 AM

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Hi!

That should actually be a pretty good system...I dunno what AutoCad's system
requirements look like, but I'd try upgrading the RAM and perhaps
reinstalling the OS from scratch. That would probably help a LOT.

William
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 12:16:47 PM

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Mike wrote:
> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>
> Dave

Talk to the person with checkbook. Lay out the options:

1. Work at slower pace (fill in some specifics, like how often you crash,
etc.)
2. Install a memory upgrade, reformat and reinstall, etc. (about 3-6 hours.)
3. Get a basic Dell for $500.

I spend half my day on a PIII, with 512MB. Memory makes a difference, as
does having an add'l drive for swap space. Set the VM to a hard number, and
that helps. If I was running autocad all day, it wouldn't be on this
machine, though.

Ed
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 5:43:11 PM

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NT 4.0 has become obsolete. The biggest problems, IMHO, are the limited boot
partition size and the lack of USB support.

Windows 2000 is much leaner and meaner than XPee, supports really large
partitions, and handles USB respectably. ALL the Windows NT family of products
manage memory 1000% better than the DOS-based ones, or Windows ME, the platypus
of Windows operating systems... Ben Myers

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:28:26 -0500, w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You are there only for their benefit. Clearly in a 'tit for
>tat' relationship, your only purpose here is to maximize YOUR
>resume and maximize your education. If it was a productive
>company (one concerned with their product and their
>customers), then you would not be posting this story. It is a
>company driven by the bean counter mentality. Employees are
>are expense - not an asset.
>
> In such environments, do not harm your resume. When bean
>counters pretend to be managers, then employees work only for
>themselves. Maximize your value so that you can find a real
>employer. IOW you are, from one perspective, in a somewhat
>enviable position. Take time to find a real job. In the
>meantime concentrate on advancing yourself as much as possible
>at their expense. But do not do physical damage. Do no
>harm. Advance yourself before helping them. Be as selfish as
>they are. But do no harm.
>
> BTW, such computers tend to work up to 20% faster when
>running Windows NT type OSes. Better would be to upgrade to
>Windows NT 4.0. Then you are using something similar to
>current technology (learning something useful) as well as
>making hardware work a little faster.
>
>Mike wrote:
>> Believe it or not, where I am employed (Cheap Bastards, Inc.) I am
>> being forced to use a Dell that is seven years old. It's a Pentium II
>> with 128 Megs of RAM and Win98SE. It should have gone to pasture a
>> long time ago but my needs have not been that great in the past but
>> now I am having to use AutoCAD quite a bit and it's running like a
>> dog. Our IT Dept is really lame and the only way I can get a new
>> system is if this one dies. Like all my personal Dell's this one just
>> won't give up it just keeps going and going and going ... So what I
>> need to know is what can I do to make it appear to be a dead system ?
>> Move some jumpers around on the motherboard ? Any ideas ? Thanks!
>>
>> Dave
Anonymous
January 13, 2005 5:43:12 PM

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Windows 2000 demands too much semiconductor memory. Memory
being one of the factors that makes a system slow. Yes, USB
was not in Windows NT because the USB standard (in the days of
NT 4.0) still had significant design problems. But we are not
taking about partition sizes or USB support. He has a machine
that is slow. He must increase hardware speed. Installing an
NT Operating System that consumes much more memory (ie Windows
2000) is not going to make a faster machine.

Furthermore installing NT is going to address HIS needs
more. It provides the experience and knowledge he is more
interested in - cheap bastard company be damned.

Windows 2000 grinds to a snails pace when memory is 128 Mb.
Windows 2000 does nothing for his system.

The best upgrade for an older machine running Windows 98 was
Windows NT 4.0 - that was older than Windows 98, stable, and
permitted hardware to run faster.

Just because Windows 2000 has better features does not mean
it is better for Mike. Before recommending, first keep the
problem in perspective. Look at his hardware. Windows 2000
will not improve his situation. Furthermore, machine would
have been purchased with Windows NT if the purchaser
understood computers. Too many people blindly bought Windows
98 only because it was promoted - not based upon technical
facts.

Ben Myers wrote:
> NT 4.0 has become obsolete. The biggest problems, IMHO, are the
> limited boot partition size and the lack of USB support.
>
> Windows 2000 is much leaner and meaner than XPee, supports really
> large partitions, and handles USB respectably. ALL the Windows NT
> family of products manage memory 1000% better than the DOS-based
> ones, or Windows ME, the platypus of Windows operating systems...
> Ben Myers
Anonymous
January 14, 2005 2:38:07 AM

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On balance, I agree with your assessment that NT 4.0 is a better replacement for
a 128MB system. NT 4.0 even runs respectably in 64MB. I have maybe 10 unused
shrink-wrapped Windows NT 4.0 sets here, if anybody wants to buy. Complete with
manual, COA, CD, and boot diskettes. Make an offer to make it worth my time to
send them out. The more you buy, the happier I'll be... Ben Myers

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:42:58 -0500, w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Windows 2000 demands too much semiconductor memory. Memory
>being one of the factors that makes a system slow. Yes, USB
>was not in Windows NT because the USB standard (in the days of
>NT 4.0) still had significant design problems. But we are not
>taking about partition sizes or USB support. He has a machine
>that is slow. He must increase hardware speed. Installing an
>NT Operating System that consumes much more memory (ie Windows
>2000) is not going to make a faster machine.
>
> Furthermore installing NT is going to address HIS needs
>more. It provides the experience and knowledge he is more
>interested in - cheap bastard company be damned.
>
> Windows 2000 grinds to a snails pace when memory is 128 Mb.
>Windows 2000 does nothing for his system.
>
> The best upgrade for an older machine running Windows 98 was
>Windows NT 4.0 - that was older than Windows 98, stable, and
>permitted hardware to run faster.
>
> Just because Windows 2000 has better features does not mean
>it is better for Mike. Before recommending, first keep the
>problem in perspective. Look at his hardware. Windows 2000
>will not improve his situation. Furthermore, machine would
>have been purchased with Windows NT if the purchaser
>understood computers. Too many people blindly bought Windows
>98 only because it was promoted - not based upon technical
>facts.
>
>Ben Myers wrote:
>> NT 4.0 has become obsolete. The biggest problems, IMHO, are the
>> limited boot partition size and the lack of USB support.
>>
>> Windows 2000 is much leaner and meaner than XPee, supports really
>> large partitions, and handles USB respectably. ALL the Windows NT
>> family of products manage memory 1000% better than the DOS-based
>> ones, or Windows ME, the platypus of Windows operating systems...
>> Ben Myers
!