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Hi Bert:
Yes, I did follow your suggestions but without success. I did not reply as
the thread was becoming very long and quite honestly I didn't think we were
getting anywhere, no disrespect intended here. I know how to fix it, or at
least I think so, and that is a WINXP 'reinstall'. I am obviously reluctant
to do this for a couple of reasons, firstly other than the SR problem the
machine and all installed programs are operating faultlessly. Scondly the
registry is backed up each day using ERUNT so I don't feel I am at risk.
Nevertheless, a fault clearly exists and I would like to understand what
the problem is. Reinstallation is a little like using a sledge hammer to
crack a nut.
If you or others have any ideas what else I could look into I would
certainly appreciate your advice but I do not want to clutter up this NG
needlessly.
"Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message
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>
> Edward W. Thompson wrote:
>> Clearly our experiences are different and I think my
>> experience is supported by the number of posts relating
>> to SR problems. I would strongly recommend that no one
>> should rely upon SR to assist them in their hour of need
>> and to use an alternative, I suggest ERUNT.
>> Perhaps some SR problems, but by no means all, are
>> related to viruses and malware.
>
> I said most, not all.
>
>> My system is free of
>> viruses and malware, at least free of all known viruses
>> and malware. I know my problem with SR is not due to a
>> recent virus or malware as it has been with me for
>> several months and updates of the various scanning
>> engines I use (both online and installed) will have
>> caught the problem by now. My biggest complaint against
>> SR is that a failure is only detected when one comes to
>> carryout a Restore which is somewhat disturbing if SR
>> does not then function as designed.
>> You are I (Bert Kinney) had an extended exchange
>> concerning my particular problem with SR. The problem
>> still persists, that is when an automatic restore point
>> is made the 'system' deletes all other Restore Points and
>> the Event Viewer shows a message to the effect there is
>> insufficient space even although over 10GB of space is available.
>
> I emailed you detailed suggestion on cleaning up the programs that are
> loading at startup on your system. I never heard back from you either in
> the newsgroup or via email, so I took it the case was closed. Looking back
> at the large amount of apps loading at startup, I suspect one of these is
> interfering with the System Restore filter causing the restore points to
> be deleted. If you did not receive the email I would be glad to send it
> again. And once the culprit is found, you will be able to depend more on
> SR, and we could use that information to help others.
>
>> I can make manually any number of Restore
>> Points but directly an 'automatic' point is made (i.e. a
>> Restore Point initiated by the system) all other Restore
>> Points are deleted. This problem persists. From MS
>> documentation the only explanation seems to be that one
>> of the files that are included in the 'restore package'
>> is corrupt but which one is impossible to say as my
>> System works perfectly other than for this problem.
>> I suspect the only solution to solve the SR problem is to
>> reinstall the system. I have followed all suggestions to
>> repair SR posted by yourself and others but without
>> result.
>>
>>
>> "Bert Kinney" wrote
>>> Hi Edward,
>>>
>>> "Practice shows it to be totally unreliable"! This is
>>> not my experience. Most System Restore failures (that is
>>> with out any warning) are do to malware/virus infection.
>>> There are also some applications the can case problems
>>> with SR such as, RealPlayer, Norton, and some virus
>>> software. Saying that, these are the very issues that
>>> are responsible for the majority of problems in Windows
>>> today. To avoid these problems one must take steps to
>>> keep there system free of virus/malware infection. Here
>>> are some steps to take to help keep the system clean. Virus and Spyware
>>> removal and prevention
>>>
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/spyware.html
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://dts-l.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> Edward W. Thompson wrote:
>>>> "Bert Kinney" wrote
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> There's probably no need to do both.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may consider reducing the amount of space system
>>>>> restore uses to around 500mb's and do less backup.
>>>>> Restoring using SR is probably much quicker the Ghost.
>>>>>
>>>>> How to Adjust the amount of disk space System Restore
>>>>> uses
>>>>>
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/body_diskspace.html
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> http://dts-l.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> jtsnow wrote:
>>>>>> If I do image backups and daily incrementals using
>>>>>> Ghost, Is there a reason I should keep the XP System
>>>>>> restore feature on? I do a baseline once a month and
>>>>>> then daily incrementals with Ghost 9.
>>>>>> Turns out, if I have the XP Restore on, then Ghost wont do
>>>>>> incrementals, only the large baseline backups and
>>>>>> thats uses up a lot of space when backing every day. I have 44gb on
>>>>>> my drive..
>>>>>> My thought is that doing it by Ghost means I restore
>>>>>> everything, even apps from the date chosen, whereas XP
>>>>>> Restore only restores system data...drivers and such.
>>>>>> So the only problem may be a longer restore from my
>>>>>> backup drive vesus using the XP Restore.
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>> The problem with System Restore is while it is good in
>>>> theory, practice shows it to be totally unreliable.
>>>> Further you do not know you have a problem with SR until
>>>> you come to Restore the registry and then it is too late. SR is
>>>> convenient, when it works, but you should always
>>>> have an alternative. Ghost seems to me, to be somewhat
>>>> overkill to safeguard the Registry but ERUNT will provide the security
>>>> required.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://dts-l.org/
>
>
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