Asus K7M vs FX5200/5600 or Ati 9200

[Moia]

I have a K7M Asus Motherboard with a 550Mhz Athlon Slot A and I would like to buy a Fx5200/5600 or ati 9200 Graphic Card because my old Ati 128 is dead.
Can my motherboard accept those graphic card with the AGP2X port (3.4V i think).
Thanks for your help !

 

[cleeve]

Go Radeon 9000 PRO.

Cheap, decent, and should work fine is an AGP 2 slot.

Not sure a 9200 would work in an AGP 2 slot, but it doesn't matter because the 900 PRO is a bit faster anyway.

(if you can find a Radeon 8500 or 9100 get those instead, they are even faster than the 9000/9200)

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Radeon 9500 (modded to PRO w/8 pixel pipelines)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+
3dMark03: 3586

 

[ufo_warviper]

On a Slot A 550 MHz, I don't beleive the other cards would have any meaninguld differences in performance, like maybe .25 frames pers second faster.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

 

[Nights_L]

hm...quite agree, but .25? bah..I think it's more than that. :tongue:

 

[ufo_warviper]

On a 550 MHz? Heck it probably wouldn't be faster than a GeForce 2 GTS running with that CPU. The CPU is definitely the bottleneck. I imagine All the Radeon 9xxx cards and the Radeon 8500 would all run the same when the CPU is such a bottleneck.

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[cleeve]

Not necessarily guys.

I upgraded a Radeon 7500 (About Geforce4 MX equivalent) to Radeon 8500 and saw a huge difference in framerates.

Remember, even the powerful Xbox is run my a 733 Mhz celery.
An Athlon 550 is at least as good as a 650 Mhz celery... if not better...

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Radeon 9500 (modded to PRO w/8 pixel pipelines)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+
3dMark03: 3586

 

[ufo_warviper]

You could be right, but according to the Quake 3 analysis of the PIII 800 MHz comparison of the GeForce2 MX200 & GeForce2 Ultra here seem to be almost identical perfomance here. I know I'me not exactly comparing apples to apples here, but still I find it surprising, ya know what I mean?

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[cleeve]

I guess it depends on the game. Or maybe it just "felt" faster...

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Radeon 9500 (modded to PRO w/8 pixel pipelines)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+
3dMark03: 3586

 

[Nights_L]

AMD AthlonXP 2400+

Cleeve, you upgraded your CPU? if I'm not wrong, you have 2000+ before no?

 

[cleeve]

Indeed I did!

I got it in exchange for putting a system together for a coworker. They got my old 2000+ in exchange for the work I did.
Don't think I would have bothered upgrading a 2400+ from a 2000+ if I had to pay for it...

But my upgrade path is stuck because my mobo doesn't do the 333 fsb thing, and real 2600+ athlons (the fastest 266 fsb athlons) are wayyy to hard to find, and too expensive to boot.

I plan to OC it to 2600+ specs tonight... if the mobo will take a 10mhz overclock.

Then it's time to OC the video card... heheh...

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Radeon 9500 (modded to PRO w/8 pixel pipelines)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+
3dMark03: 3586

 

[ufo_warviper]

If that's the case, it hope it was a free or very cheap upgrade, because the difference between a 2000+ & a 2400+ isn't all that great, especiall since the PR system is all whacked up.

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[cleeve]

LOL! I know.

I editied my response to explain the upgrade right before I read your response... see above

I forgot to add my 2000+ was 18micron palomino, and the 2400+ is a 13micron thoroughbred, so it has a much better ability to overclock...

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Radeon 9500 (modded to PRO w/8 pixel pipelines)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+
3dMark03: 3586

 

[ufo_warviper]

Wow, then that's pretty cool then. I'm glad to see you didn't get gipped afterall . By the way, will the 9600 XT's be able to softmod like the 9500 cards?

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

 

[Turk]

Hi!

The ATI 9000/9100/9200 should work just fine becasue they work with AGP2 (3.3V) which I think that your board has.
"The AGP slot on the K7M is a standard 3.3v AGP 2X slot"
This can be found at the following link:
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1153

By the way, you should see a huge preformance boost with these cards compared to your previous card. But be aware of the so called 9200se.

On the other hand you can also use the FX 5200 series since they also are AGP 2 to 8 compliant.

On nice thing with the 5200 are that there are many models with passive heatsinks. Nice to the ear, that is.

When it comes to preformance I think that the 5200 are slightly faster than the 9200.

So in the end its a question of which you can find at the lowest price.

GL

Turk

 

[Nights_L]

Good Luck for your OC! ..for both CPU and Video Card, post it back of your result! should be interesting
I currently have the same CPU that you had before..2000+ Palomino, i'm planning to buy a Barton 2500+ since they are very cheap now..

 

[Crashman]

I'd look around for an old 8500 Pro. The 8500LE/9100 64MB cards would be the next up.

Of course you could get a 9500 non-pro and try modifying it to 9500 Pro standards by enabling the 4 disabled pipes. Even if that fails, it's a good card.

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[ufo_warviper]

8500 Pro?

I've heard of the Radeon 8500 & the Radeon 8500LE, but I've never heard of a Radeon 8500 Pro in my life.

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[Crashman]

How does "Gold" sound then, better?

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[cleeve]

well, I managed a 143/143 (fsb/mem) overclock on the first try, which gives me 2145 Mhz. (Equivalent of AthlonXP 2600+). Ran burn in with sisoft and got no problems, very stable.

That's as far as I want to push it because this platform has to last me until I upgrade to my next platform... which will probably be either Athlon64 or Prescott I guess. I'm hoping this will hold me out until the middle of 2004.

I really can't say anything bad about the ECS K7S5A. This cheapo board has lasted me FOREVER, starting out with an Athlon 1200. Now I've upgraded the CPU twice.

For a board that's max specs are 2600+ thorougbred (133 FSB only) and 266 DDR, this thing has served me really well.

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Radeon 9500 (modded to PRO w/8 pixel pipelines)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+ (Modded to 2600+ with 143 fsb oc)
3dMark03: 3586

 

[Nights_L]

wow..good luck of buying new pc..
I can't upgrade my PC until 2005 or 2006 I guess..I just have my PC at earlier of 2003, I hope this board could hold me longer, so I want to maxout this mobo..a KT333, that's why I buy 2500+, then I'll wait..