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Anonymous
June 21, 2005 3:13:44 PM

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The greatest thing about the Vectrex is it's Homebrew community, and new
hardware (vecflash, etc.).

As you all know the reproduction cases are all gone now, and Sean Kelly
who has started this reproduction, has no intention (as far as we know)
of making another production run.

We could make a joined effort in making cases.

a) contact Sean (mmmh, how?) and get his mould
b) make a new mould

We could contact some moulding/plastic factories in several countries,
if we have the specification of the mould/case and the number of carts
we need in the first run.

Who can fill me in,

a) we need specifications of the cases (or can a factory work from an
original case)?
b) how many cases do we need
c) find the best (price! but also quality) factory
d) Finance this!

.....

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Anonymous
June 21, 2005 3:13:45 PM

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I think this is a great idea. I was even thinking about doing it (I
have no equipment, but I once used an injection molder in high school
*grin*). I thought perhaps the fine people at vgwiz.com, who make those
clear, blue, and red Atari 2600/7800 cartridge cases that are all over
AtariAge.com, would have some suggestions on how to go about it. I
e-mailed them, but haven't received a response yet.

Jeroen (vectrex.nl) wrote:
> The greatest thing about the Vectrex is it's Homebrew community, and new
> hardware (vecflash, etc.).
>
> As you all know the reproduction cases are all gone now, and Sean Kelly
> who has started this reproduction, has no intention (as far as we know)
> of making another production run.
>
> We could make a joined effort in making cases.
>
> a) contact Sean (mmmh, how?) and get his mould
> b) make a new mould
>
> We could contact some moulding/plastic factories in several countries,
> if we have the specification of the mould/case and the number of carts
> we need in the first run.
>
> Who can fill me in,
>
> a) we need specifications of the cases (or can a factory work from an
> original case)?
> b) how many cases do we need
> c) find the best (price! but also quality) factory
> d) Finance this!
>
> ....
Anonymous
June 21, 2005 3:13:45 PM

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PS. I wonder what the prices are like here (this was linked from
WorldChanging.com when I did a search for "injection molding"):

http://emachineshop.com/
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Anonymous
June 21, 2005 3:13:45 PM

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They're really nice! They don't have the fancy spring-loaded contact
covers that the original Atari-branded cartridges did, but they're
every bit as finished as any clone cartridge from the 80s, and they
seem really durable. I especially like the clear ones.
Anonymous
June 21, 2005 5:09:50 PM

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Yes, it's getting pretty desperate, I'm turning down requests for VecFlash's
every week + I've had to put the next project (VecRam III) on hold
indefinitely.

Like I've said before, I'm more than willing to put cash into the pot to buy
a new or Sean's existing mould.





Richard H.
Anonymous
June 21, 2005 5:11:31 PM

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>We could contact some moulding/plastic factories in several countries,

Asia has got to be the most cost effective place to have them made




Richard H.
Anonymous
June 21, 2005 6:24:55 PM

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Jeroen (vectrex.nl) schreef:
> The greatest thing about the Vectrex is it's Homebrew community, and new
> hardware (vecflash, etc.).
>
> As you all know the reproduction cases are all gone now, and Sean Kelly
> who has started this reproduction, has no intention (as far as we know)
> of making another production run.
>
> We could make a joined effort in making cases.
>
> a) contact Sean (mmmh, how?) and get his mould
> b) make a new mould
>
> We could contact some moulding/plastic factories in several countries,
> if we have the specification of the mould/case and the number of carts
> we need in the first run.
>
> Who can fill me in,
>
> a) we need specifications of the cases (or can a factory work from an
> original case)?
> b) how many cases do we need
> c) find the best (price! but also quality) factory
> d) Finance this!
>
> ....
I have dropped an info request with a dutch manufacturer, i will post
info here when i have more to report.

If other people can help, let us know thru these posts or email me at
info(at)vectrex.nl
Anonymous
June 21, 2005 6:36:15 PM

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Jeroen (vectrex.nl) schreef:
> The greatest thing about the Vectrex is it's Homebrew community, and new
> hardware (vecflash, etc.).
>
> As you all know the reproduction cases are all gone now, and Sean Kelly
> who has started this reproduction, has no intention (as far as we know)
> of making another production run.
>
> We could make a joined effort in making cases.
>
> a) contact Sean (mmmh, how?) and get his mould
> b) make a new mould
>
> We could contact some moulding/plastic factories in several countries,
> if we have the specification of the mould/case and the number of carts
> we need in the first run.
>
> Who can fill me in,
>
> a) we need specifications of the cases (or can a factory work from an
> original case)?
> b) how many cases do we need
> c) find the best (price! but also quality) factory
> d) Finance this!
>
> ....
I mailed Sean thru his ebay account, which is active. I asked him if we
(or Mark Shaker) could use his mould.

tbc
June 21, 2005 6:53:26 PM

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Count me in on anything you do. I looked into it locally a few months
ago, and it's really expensive here. I was quoted something in the
area of $8000 for a mold.

George
Anonymous
June 21, 2005 7:03:15 PM

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>I thought perhaps the fine people at vgwiz.com, who make those
>clear, blue, and red Atari 2600/7800 cartridge cases

That's an excellent idea !

I've heard their cases are pretty good quality





Richard H.
June 21, 2005 7:12:21 PM

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RED MARTIAN wrote:
> I just don't have a direct line to Sean.

> if he'd let us take the mold


If you can do it, GREAT! However, I've noted 2 gigantic hurdles...
contacting Sean, and getting him to give up the mold.

George
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 12:34:03 AM

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I decided to give emachineshop a whirl. I spent about an hour, and came
up with this:

http://whiteshell.com/jacob/vectrex/cartridgetest.2005j...

It's not to scale (well, the overall size is right, just not the
particulars), and it's not designed to be mated to another half, etc -
it's just a test!

I ran the costing feature on the application, too, and it gave a price
for this part, as designed, of $927.82 for 100, $572.35 of which is
tooling. At a quantity of 1000, it's $2229.19, getting very close to
Sean Kelly's asking price of $4 per, assuming the bottom half is about
the same cost. My guess is that the final tooling cost will be twice as
high, given that I haven't approached the necessary complexity yet, so
the order will probably need to be for two or three thousand to make
the price-per-unit reasonable. If there are twenty games out there that
need runs of a hundred, this could work.

Jacob Rose wrote:
> PS. I wonder what the prices are like here (this was linked from
> WorldChanging.com when I did a search for "injection molding"):
>
> http://emachineshop.com/
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 2:00:28 AM

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For those who sell carts (shaker, hutchinson and friends) I'd be willing
to put the funding in to realise a new supply of cart cases. I just don't
have a direct line to Sean. I know he's been busy with his family, but if
he'd let us take the mold, I'll provide the funding and get the cases to
you guys. Deal?

--
martians@sdf.lonestar.org
June 22, 2005 2:17:42 AM

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Looks good, Jacob! Keep us posted here.

George
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 4:46:22 AM

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I have also send an inquiry to a Taiwan bases plastics company.

tbc.
June 22, 2005 6:05:58 AM

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Chris Romero wrote:
> All,
>
> Great work and enthusiasm so far on this additional case effort guys!
>
> BUT, save your money for a short time more. More to come presently on the
> subject.....
>
> Chris


Thanks for the update and the email Chris. I just received
a response from Mark Shaker, who confirmed that he will buy
1000 shells from Sean. Mark always buys a lot from Sean, and
then he resells them to the rest of us. It works very well,
as long as the product is kept in stock. Mark is a very fast
and efficient person to deal with, and it really would be best
to continue doing it this way. It's simpler for everyone.

George
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 11:28:17 AM

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All,

Great work and enthusiasm so far on this additional case effort guys!

BUT, save your money for a short time more. More to come presently on the
subject.....

Chris
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 9:49:16 PM

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>I'll provide the funding and get the cases to you guys. Deal?

Yes definitely, if you can make it work and guarantee an uninterrupted
supply, GO FOR IT !




Richard H.
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 10:07:17 PM

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FURY schreef:
> Chris Romero wrote:
>
>>All,
>>
>>Great work and enthusiasm so far on this additional case effort guys!
>>
>>BUT, save your money for a short time more. More to come presently on the
>>subject.....
>>
>>Chris
>
>
>
> Thanks for the update and the email Chris. I just received
> a response from Mark Shaker, who confirmed that he will buy
> 1000 shells from Sean. Mark always buys a lot from Sean, and
> then he resells them to the rest of us. It works very well,
> as long as the product is kept in stock. Mark is a very fast
> and efficient person to deal with, and it really would be best
> to continue doing it this way. It's simpler for everyone.
>
> George
>
Great to hear the carts shortage will be ended soon.

Jeroen
btw Taiwan replied to my request, they would like to make the carts, but
that doesn't seem te be necessary anymore.
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 10:07:18 PM

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>btw Taiwan replied to my request, they would like to make the carts, but
>that doesn't seem te be necessary anymore.

It does, because I need a continuous supply i.e have our own mold.

I just can't have long periods without cases again.


What sort of pricing did you get back form Taiwan ?





Richard H.
Anonymous
June 23, 2005 12:29:34 AM

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Richard Hutchinson schreef:
>>btw Taiwan replied to my request, they would like to make the carts, but
>>that doesn't seem te be necessary anymore.
>
>
> It does, because I need a continuous supply i.e have our own mold.
>
> I just can't have long periods without cases again.
>
>
> What sort of pricing did you get back form Taiwan ?
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard H.
>
>
>
No quotation yet, i have asked for an estimate today to get a mould
made. In the first reply they asked if i could send an example, i have
asked for an estimate before i send an example.

tbc
Anonymous
June 23, 2005 12:29:35 AM

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Thanks Jeroen, that sounds quite promising !




Richard H.
Anonymous
June 23, 2005 1:24:19 AM

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"Jeroen (vectrex.nl)" <dontusethis@antispam.nl> wrote in news:82f04
$42b7da48$3e3b7847$16766@news.versatel.nl:

Good initiative Jeroen!

I wouldn't know what to contribute, but it seems
things are moving again..

Two thumbs up everyone!
Anonymous
June 24, 2005 6:22:12 PM

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Richard Hutchinson schreef:
> Thanks Jeroen, that sounds quite promising !
>
>
>
>
> Richard H.
>
>

A mould/mold would cost usd 4500 in Taiwan!

Maybe a poll on the subject how to continue?
!