Differences between a 9600 and a 9600 Pro

[Gigglesby]

Is it pure clockspeed different, can anyone give me a quick rundown of said differences?

Thanks much in advance.

 

[Spitfire_x86]

Clockspeed difference: 400 MHz for Pro and 325 MHz (AFAIK) for non-Pro

Memory clock difference: R9600 Pro 275 MHz/128 bit (8.8 GB/s), R9600 200 MHz/128 bit (6.4 GB/s)


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[endyen]

Hate to correct you Spitfire but the 9600 pro runs it's ram at 300. It's band width is 300 X 2 x 128/8= 9.6 GB/s or if you like 9600 MB/s

 

[Spitfire_x86]

Thanks! I always appreciate correction.

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[Snorkius]

Does the 9600np overclock to pro speeds?

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[cleeve]

Depends on which RAM the manufacturer is using.

The GPU will probably do it (9600s are great oc'ers), but I'd be surprised if you could find a card with 200 Mhz ram that'd easily oc to 300.

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[Snorkius]

Ok, who makes the best video RAM?

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[cleeve]

I believe Infineon is good for overclocking, Hynix not so good. But it's not just the make, it's the rating:

3.6ns is rated to about 275 Mhz
3.3 ns is rated to about 300 Mhz
3.0 ns is rated to about 333 mhz

And the better the rating, the better the overclock.

You might do well to ask around on the Rage3d.com forums. More Ati heads there.

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[Snorkius]

IS there a Gainward-type producer for ATI cards? Someone who will put 3.3ns mem on a 9600np?

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[Spitfire_x86]

I've seen most of the cheap 200 MHz VRAM based cards come with 5.0ns memory.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Spitfire_x86 on 10/14/03 12:18 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Ion]

infineon ram is nicknamed "inferior" ram

Samsung ram is the best for overclock.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

The major diference between the po and non-pro is the TYPE of ram, not just the speed.
The PRO uses BGA memory modules, and depending on the makers, they ca be from Hynix, Infenion, EtronTech and Samsung, and in varying seeds from 2.8n (Hynix, whihc overclocks actually WORSE than Samsung's 2.86ns) to 3.3ns (on some Sapphire, Powercolor and Gigacube boards.. The Samsung 2.86ns memory (there are even 2 types of THAT) is what you find on BBA cards, and has the best overclocks by far.

The R9600non-pro use TSOP memory (usually Samsung 4ns), and TSOP memory is a TERRIBLE overclcocker and will definitely not get ANYWHERE near the PRO speeds (you'll be lucky to hit 220mhz let alone 300).
Also some non-pros have 64 bit memory instead of the 128 bit stuff, and then it doesn't matter which quality stuff you get it's so handicapped there's really no point.

The BGA memory overclocks well (a long as it's not already near it's max the 3.3ns stuff only OCs a SMALL bit usually, like 310mhz). Just be sure the quality you get. The BEST IMO is the Samsung (and especially the .86 ns stuff, although the 3.0 is 'ok', the Hynix clocks lower than the EtronTech, despite having equivalent (better) ratings.

The AIW uses the Samsung 2.8ns memory and comes stock clocked at 325mhz, but most PROs with the same memory should be able to reach that no problem.

Hope that helps.


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[Snorkius]

Thanks!

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