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Shenan Stanley <newshelper@gmail.com> had this to say:
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> Answer to OP/Galen within..
>
> jt wrote:
>> I'm new to xp so forgive my ignorance. I have a dvd-rw drive which
>> I've used to copy several downloaded files to a cdrw for archival
>> purposes. When I tried to copy a file from this cdrw back to my hd,
>> I got an error message that said "cannot copy xxxx: data error
>> (cyclic redundancy check)."
>> I ejected the cd and put it in my win98 box and it read the files and
>> copied them from the cdrw with no problem. What am I doing wrong in
>> xp?
>> BTW, I did a websearch on the "cyclic redundancy check" error message
>> and the only thing I could find was that the file or cdrw is corrupt
>> (crc error). If that were the case, then it seems the file wouldn't
>> be usable on my win98 system, which it is.
>
> First - the sections specific to the OP...
>
> Galen wrote:
>> The problem COULD be hardware and COULD be software... What if, for
>> instance, the software used for burning didn't support checking for
>> warped media and couldn't write to it? What if they got a garbage
>> batch of DVDs or bought cheap media incompatable with their hardware?
>> I have, for instance, a chunk of 100 DVDs that I'd give you for the
>> low price of asking because I can't seem to burn VHS to them no
>> matter what analoge converter I use while any other name brand burns
>> them just fine. For date they work great. Anything else? They bite...
>> Given everything the OP said I'd say check the drive on a separate OS
>> or with alternate software. I would certainly try a different brand
>> of media first... If the drive is still faulty return it ASAP while
>> hopefully it's warrantied.
>
> Galen is correct. I too have gotten several "batches" of CDs/DVDs
> that could be burned and read in one CD/DVD drive, but not others. I
> have not ran into the OS/driver problem, merely quality of CD/DVD
> issues - usually equated in the end to the quality of the hardware
> itself. I still have an older HP CD burner that reads CDs other CD
> drives cannot.. And I have had better luck with my Plextor DVD drive
> reading everything given to me than other drives.
>
> This is what leads me to believe your problem is hardware related. There
> is a quality difference in hardware that has been made obvious
> to me throughout usage over time. The fact that my HP CD drive reads
> CDs others give me while other drives I have access to will not tells
> me that even if the media is at fault, a quality drive can make up
> the difference. The Plextor DVD drive pattern for me also points in
> that direction (for me anyway.) (What is surprising is that the CDs
> the HP will read.. well the Plextor DVD drive sometimes won't read..
> even though it has read DVD media in the past my other DVD drives
> could not.)
> Galen's point about checking the drive with an alternative OS is very
> valid in this instance.. Since the OP definitely has this access. Swap
> the drive out and see what happens. Worst case, you've wasted
> 30 minutes. Best case, it will point to a more precise reason for
> the problem.
> Now the sections more specific to myself..
>
> Galen wrote:
>> I don't know you nor do I want to start anything that you'd consider
>> offensive. I follow the Sherlock Holmes method. I will finish...
>>
>> At first I read your posts and I thought that you posted the same
>> thing every time. I almost kill filed you to be honest to avoid
>> reading/downloading the answers. I bumped into some that were not the
>> same cut/paste and decided I'd not do so at that time. I'm glad I
>> didn't.
>
> I appreciate that. Yes - I do post the "long post" quite often. Often
> enough that hopefully it comes up in Google searches by now.
> heh However, I also give other advice.. I came up with that long
> post from experience and since my experiencing has not ended, my
> answers constantly adjust as well. Sometimes the long post is not
> needed and in those instances, I do not post it. There have been
> times where it was overkill, and there have been times where my
> answers were incorrect. You cannot learn by always being right. hah
>
>> Why do I post this? Add this? Because you're active here and I hope
>> that I'm right. I'm always hoping that the fault is less expensive
>> and try the simple solutions first. People have 'flamed' you in the
>> past and I am not one to do that. Instead I'll ask why you said
>> something... I'm not always right... I hope for a 50/50 percentile
>> Better than a major league baseball player
Anyhow, I've read your
>> posts... You, and a number of other's, are flagged as "posts of
>> interest" and coloured a rather horrid magenta color (sorry about
>> that but it's the last color remaining with my rule set that would
>> not confuzzle me) so please don't take this as a flame but rather a
>> quest to understand what it was in the first place that got me to
>> flag your posts.
>
> From what I read, you were right - I overlooked something that could
> be a more obvious/less expensive solution. The OP does have a unique
> position where the CDs are written but cannot be read on the system
> they were written on - but are read just fine (on all things) an
> older (likely) Windows 98 system! Really strange. My bet still goes
> for "low-quality hardware", but if they can fix it with an update,
> moving the drive to another channel or just trying out a better
> quality media.. That would be fantastic!
>> My reply to email is valid if you feel offended or if you think that
>> this is a topic best removed from the group.
>
> Nah - I prefer people to critique and think rather than just take
> advice blindly or turn a blind eye. I have never "kill-filed" anyone
> - mostly because I don't get "offended" (usually - this has been a
> trying month anyway) easily and because even those who give "wrong"
> answers or are just blow-hards looking for a fight (trolls even) -
> sometimes shine a light on something I wouldn't have seen otherwise.
>
> I appreciate your comments.. I do not take offense to them and look
> forward to noticing more of your posts around here!
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
Hah, don't notice my posts. I'm just a Galen. When presented with a question
I tend to ask why. I follow many posts and read often. You probably don't
know who I am unless you're good with your Google. I'm not an MVP at the
moment though I have been in the past, I lapsed, but haven't a desire to
type it all out again. I am not an Microsoft employee nor anything as
grandiose. I'm just a curious person who's found your posts to be often
comprised of the same information but unusually apt in a number of
instances. I've kill-filed many people. I will do so more in the future. I
do so because my time is better spent dealing with important issues than
dealing with petty issues. It took a while to learn the value of the filters
but they're worth it in my opinion. Your instinct, hardware, might indeed be
correct though I'm an AOpen person myself.
Galen
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Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.
Yeah, I add that because well... It's automated 
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