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ATI are junk, stay away!!!

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November 12, 2003 8:11:47 AM

My mate got this new Ati 9800 and the driver problems hes having, wow. But finally he got thaat sorted and the card
is not much better than a Ti4200 even with the dx9 games. Could have he got a bad card or are all Ati cards a bit slow on the performance side?

If he doesn't die, he'll get help!!!

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November 12, 2003 8:40:14 AM

You are kidding, right?

My friend flung his FX5600 out of the window. Got 15000 in Aquamark. With his new 9600Pro he gets 27000+. Check drivers conflicts. My upgrade from GF3 to 9600Pro was a F-up. Only after a format it was flying. Really flying.

Bad card. Bad bad bad. Sit. Stay. Roll over.

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At this rate we'll all be going to hell. But at least I have box seats.
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a b U Graphics card
November 12, 2003 11:45:10 AM

You know why. Cause your friend actually bought an R9000 and drew a line across the first zero. That kind of mod just won't bring the same kind of performance as the softmods and volt mods.

I seriously have to wonder about your mental state if you hang around with people unable to get either a real R9800 or know the difference between one and a GF4ti.

Find new mates!


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November 12, 2003 12:37:02 PM

you = full of $hit

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AMD AthlonXP 2400+ (o/c to 2600+ with 143 fsb)
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November 12, 2003 4:37:07 PM

Quote:
you = full of $hit


Me too. uh oh,.... hold on.... sorry guys I uhmm, gotta go take dump!

"640k ought to be enough for everyone." - <b><font color=red>BILL GATE$</b></font color=red>
November 12, 2003 4:53:43 PM

the thread creator is junk, stay away.

Wooba Wooba
November 12, 2003 6:41:26 PM

You been go for awhile. Finish yet? Feel better?
November 12, 2003 7:52:48 PM

*FLUSH*

[duke nukem voice] AHHHHHHHH! Much better!!!!![/duke nukem voice]

*Sprays air freshener*

"640k ought to be enough for everyone." - <b><font color=red>BILL GATE$</b></font color=red>
November 12, 2003 8:37:44 PM

I'd put my 9500 Pro up against any FX card...I feel it would put up quite a bit of a fight against them and it would kick the crap out of some of them. I wouldn't base your opinion on only one experience with them. Sometimes other factors contribute...

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November 12, 2003 9:08:05 PM

So, you work for Nvidia?

"I'm a man armed with a fork in a land of soup."
November 12, 2003 10:27:43 PM

nah~ he wanted to suck nVidia's diick for money, but nVidia wont let him so he's here trying to make himself look good so nVidia will let him suck their diick

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November 13, 2003 1:42:50 AM

Man! What the heck? My cousin got a 9800pro and it was incredible, about at least 20 times faster than my gf2 mx 400. I think your friend just didn't install the driver right, or the setting of your 3dmark is set to be some shiit. Did you know that you made many people angry by calling Ati is a junk? You are stupid, man.
November 13, 2003 3:11:37 AM

he does this from time to time for kicks


hes probably some overwieght lonely greasy haired loser who just wants to know that his existance was awknowledged.

kinda pathetic if you gotta spam a message board to do this. but whatever, dont get worked up over him. ignoring usually works best

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November 13, 2003 3:16:32 AM

Quote:
hes probably some overwieght lonely greasy haired loser who just wants to know that his existance was awknowledged.


who called me??????? lolz

Just kidding :D 

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November 13, 2003 3:46:53 AM

I have a authentic XFX Ti 4200 Graphics card @ 128MB of Memory with the 8X AGP slot. When I first got it and installed it I knew I had to do a complete reinstall of Windows. Most people understand that the system would need to be reinstalled when adding or switching a hardware device as important as a graphics card.
Ok the first thing I noticed was with my XP ready 2500+ AMD CPU and new Ti 4200 graphics card was I could play games that I never could before.
I have used both the ATI Radeon cards and the Nvidia chip sets. Both are about as good as you are going to get no one else makes anything that's worth looking at for games.
The Radeon 9800 cards should really kick some holy Frames per second in most games including the new DX9 games.
I was getting good performance from my Ti 4200 graphics card with the AMD 2500+ CPU but I later installed a 2800+ CPU and can now see my games run flat out awesome. In fact I have never had a computer that runs games this well before. The real difference in performance leap for the games did not happen when I installed the new Geforce Ti4200 card the leap in performance in graphics speed and quality only occurred after I installed a faster CPU.
My nephew currently has a AMD XP ready 2500+ and the new FX 5200 graphics card and his system runs his games laggy. I know if I install a 2800+ cpu upgrade into his computer his games will run much better possibly perfect.
A intel 2.5 or 2.6c CPU from experience has the same problems with both the ATI cards or the Geforce Cards.
Graphics are not totally dependant on the quality of graphics card the CPU will have much to do with game performance.
If I took the current system I have now and installed a VOODOO4 AGP card I know the CPU would pull that card along nicely and most games developed before DX9 would run perfectly. I know the Voodoo manufacturer went out of business a few years ago now and Nvidia bought them out. It would be interesting to have seen how Voodoo would be doing now on today's time line.
I also have heard many posts from many people including my self that the new FX line of graphics cards are doing poorly in real world use by the average computer users. It is most important to remember that those cards are ELITE in design both the Nvidia and the latest for ATI cards.
If you are not using the latest CPU's available then you are not going to get the quality those cards can offer. You are going to have to purchase both a mother board that is high end and a CPU to get those cards to work they simply are not designed to function in older mother boards. Boards that are even a year 2 years old or less.

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November 13, 2003 4:44:42 AM

Quote:

who called me??????? lolz

Just kidding :D 


hahahaz...

dude, you were like certainly NOT fat in those pics you sent meh.. in fact you looked damn sexy in those speedo's. especially that one where you bent over and smile at the camera between your knees *mmmm thinks of balls pressed between buns*



goddamn joo.. making me horny. ima go pick you up now ok? make sure you bring that langerie i bought you too, wanna try it out ( you know, the one with the built in crotch hole)

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November 13, 2003 5:52:00 AM

eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.............

how many times have i told u people! I AM NOT GAY!!!!!!!!
*looks around* anyone else straight here?

i'm scared.....

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November 13, 2003 8:16:26 AM

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My nephew currently has a AMD XP ready 2500+ and the new FX 5200 graphics card and his system runs his games laggy. I know if I install a 2800+ cpu upgrade into his computer his games will run much better possibly perfect.





Sorry have to disagree.
Uping the CPU will help but not as much as a new vid card.
A 9600XT or PRO would be the good upgrade for your nephew.

Just my 2 pence worth :-)
a b U Graphics card
November 13, 2003 11:47:49 AM

Yeah, the FX5200 isn't going to be helped by even a 3Ghz CPU.

That card has reached the end of the line already, it won't see much change from a CPU upgrade. Those days are slowly drawing to a close. In order to run future games well you'll need a good CPU and a GOOD graphics card, and even then you may find that the graphics card is the biggest issue as the CPU will likely be better used in future games for things like AI and Maping.

Your two pence are worth about the same as my two frames worth.


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November 13, 2003 11:58:37 AM

ha-ha, only if U thinks slideshows is the way all games are going...

Trust me I know what I'm doing... ooops, grab the cat...
November 13, 2003 12:55:16 PM

hahahaha...........this is the funniest thread i've come
across.............hahah!!:D 
November 30, 2003 8:09:07 AM

This guy has to be joking, right? RIGHT?!
November 30, 2003 6:31:40 PM

nVidia- THE WAY GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE SLIDE SHOWED

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FX5700Ultra, the next Ti4200? seems so
November 30, 2003 6:31:41 PM

nVidia- THE WAY GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE SLIDE SHOWED

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FX5700Ultra, the next Ti4200? seems so
November 30, 2003 7:04:20 PM

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nVidia- THE WAY GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE SLIDE SHOWED

I challenge you, my nVidia card against <b>your</b> ATi card....choose your benchmark :smile:


<b>I help because you suck</b>
November 30, 2003 8:05:13 PM

sees GW's FX5700Ultra....

AHHHH HELP ME

I SURRENDER!!!!!!

PLEASE DONT OVERCLOCK

NO GW NO!!!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHH~~~

*computer and body breaks apart*

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FX5700Ultra, the next Ti4200? seems so
November 30, 2003 9:55:49 PM

hehe GW you bastard,

outa curiosity
what kind stats/fps you gettin on that 5700u anyways?

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November 30, 2003 11:52:09 PM

I thought AA and AF was wisabled by default with halo and turning them on did nothing?

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I know the way myself. :evil: 
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a b U Graphics card
December 1, 2003 2:52:21 AM

You must turn off render targets, which loses some effects. But it is doable, and yes it is disabled by default, but we can fix that.

Check <A HREF="http://www.tweaktown.com/ttg/ttgdocument.php?dType=guid..." target="_new">This review</A> for HALO tweaks.


<b>GW</b>,

Hmm a Benchmark duel eh? It's been a long time since I had one of those. :wink:
Alright start with the easy one. What's your Aquamark score. Graphic score, not CPU, not total. :evil: 

If only we could publish Rthdribl v1.2 benchmark results. I know the FX series is really hurting there. :evil: 

How about Shadermark? :tongue:


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