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Pirate Bay Plans DDo$ Against Law Firm

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May 12, 2009 9:17:57 PM

ARRRG! We be gettin ready for a strike me mateee's! Let us Own their courts and plunder their websites! ARRRRG!
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May 12, 2009 9:19:31 PM

Hahahahahahahah, brilliant..

While I don't exactly support the idea, this is hilariously ingenious.
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May 12, 2009 9:22:35 PM

This has no bearing on the retrial. I'm sure the firm will grow wise, but still it's f'ing brilliant.

Kinda like paying a parking ticket with pennies.
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May 12, 2009 9:23:23 PM

ehehehehe
awesome idea against the bigwig moneybags
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May 12, 2009 9:27:07 PM

Genius.
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May 12, 2009 9:29:47 PM

link to donation site anyone?
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May 12, 2009 9:51:36 PM

Indeed a awesome plan for them. Jane (or someone) please post a link to this donation site!
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Anonymous
May 12, 2009 9:55:37 PM

Is Tom's hardware somehow pro piratebay? If not I can't understand these news... it is just going to motivate people to follow up. Especially with comments like "The idea is definitely interesting."
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May 12, 2009 9:56:45 PM

tenor77This has no bearing on the retrial. I'm sure the firm will grow wise, but still it's f'ing brilliant.Kinda like paying a parking ticket with pennies.


Paying with pennies, one at a time, by launching them in the face of the reciever with a catapult. While at the same time, after the 1000th penny, the reciever has to start paying medical bills for each and every little bruise. And just like lawyers, doctors charge an arm and a leg too.
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Anonymous
May 12, 2009 10:02:21 PM

If I was the law firm, I would just set a minimum payment limit. Thanks for your cash.
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Anonymous
May 12, 2009 10:12:14 PM

So they want to give there details to a law firm just to pay them $0.001. I wonder how much money the law firm could get by just suing every individual for malicious intent or if the law firm was really enjoyed they could just sell the Details to ID theifs and make some money that way, I am sure they would know the right people.
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May 12, 2009 10:29:31 PM

I love the ideas these guys keep coming up with!!!
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May 12, 2009 10:38:22 PM

LOL Except that, after this occurs, the law firm will probably have grounds to sue them (and or illicit criminal charges) for harassment since they've publicly asked for this event to occur. It's like a cyber riot. Authorities will probably charge them with inciting an electronic riot or something like that.

I think it's an interesting idea for sure. But as someone else mentioned, it's likely to hurt their appeals chances. The prosecution can show that they are continuing their immature and illegal activities by asking supporters to launch cyber & financial attacks on their opponents.
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May 12, 2009 11:37:30 PM

The page is http://www.internetavgift.se/ (it's in Swedish)

A better English explanation of the plan can be found at http://www.blogpirate.org/2009/05/10/pirate-bay-founder...

The reason behind the attack is that the Danowsky law firm has asked the Swedish government to collect the 30 million SEK the court sentenced the people behind The Pirate Bay to pay. If the money isn't payed the government can sell everything the people behind The Pirate Bay owns to pay part of the fine. The idea behind this action is to get even with the Danowsky law firm by first forcing them to loose money on every 1 SEK payment they receive(after the first 1000 transfers the firm will have to pay 2 SEK to receive the one) and then as the payments isn't valid they have to pay the 1 SEK back to all who payed. If they don't The Pirate Bay people suggest going to the Swedish government and get them to help collect the money.
Basically they want to make sure that the Danowsky law firm goes bankrupt and perhaps scare other law firms from representing the music industry in the comming trials.
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May 13, 2009 12:15:00 AM

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Is Tom's hardware somehow pro piratebay? If not I can't understand these news... it is just going to motivate people to follow up. Especially with comments like "The idea is definitely interesting."

Tom's has covered every bit of the trial, good and bad, from the beginning. The latest development in the Pirate Bay case is IT news and belongs in an IT forum. If you do or don’t agree with TPB then say so here, but don’t blame Tom for what is in the IT news today.
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May 13, 2009 1:12:14 AM

Judging by how I kept talking like a pirate, and it gets thumbs up... I think its safe to say We lik piratebay... ARRRG!
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May 13, 2009 1:32:36 AM

The ultimate irony:

People who refuse to pay for software (sometimes for convenience or other reasons) are flocking en masse to pay for the right to do so.
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May 13, 2009 3:21:28 AM

Most of the forum users are pro Pirate Bay yes, but the news for TPB is usually unbiased... surprisingly.

Anywho, this is a great scare tactic, and would be amazing if it worked. But I'm sorry, two wrongs don't make a right.
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May 13, 2009 4:24:38 AM

As soon as I feel comfortable knowing how stupid people are, they find ways to amaze me yet again...
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May 13, 2009 8:41:12 AM

Can I donate even when I'm not swedish?
I've never searched for a single torrent on pirate bay, but I support fair conduct in trial, and thus I'm on their side this time - like the law, but unlike the men with money and the judge.
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May 13, 2009 12:14:37 PM

wow, what legends, I hope thhis works, serves those stupid corporate fa cats right.
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May 13, 2009 1:59:26 PM

Those pirate Bay Dorks are very immature..

They break the law, and try to justify that ehir actions are right.... They are like the non murdering versions of Hitler.



I don't get most people opinions.
Whats wrong with Far cats trying to protect whats there?


Say if you are rich and someone stole your car
Well dude your car was stollen. It still matters if your rich or poor.
Just becuase your rich doesn't mean you have no rights to get your car back.

Steeling is steeling. If you get caught why cry about it? Some people steel for the fact of getting a rush out of it or to be cool(in there own retarded mind). Well If steeling was not wrong then what would be the point?

When most people steel they shut up and keep it to themselves. They do not brag about it for fear they will get caught. As the name of the game is to evade the law. Well what these Pirate Bay terds are doing are the exact opposite. It just shows how immature they are. They beleive so much they have a right to steel that they have to dangle it in everyones face and make a big scean about it. Its like a little kind having a tempertantrum. 'Mommy why are you grounding me, i did nothing wrong but stole some toys from different stores, why you taking my toys away. Those stores were big stores I promise. They have money and since they are rich I am allowed to steel from them. So mommy please don't ground me. My friends there were with me when we stole from the stores were doing what they were allowed to do to. Its really okay with their parents. Trust me mommy. Can I go to my friends house now? We want to look for cars next.'


What am I suppose to day 'These guys are my heroes?'
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Anonymous
May 13, 2009 2:16:13 PM

StqTth, are you Paris Hilton?
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May 13, 2009 2:17:05 PM

ShqTthThose pirate Bay Dorks are very immature..They break the law, and try to justify that ehir actions are right.... They are like the non murdering versions of Hitler.


You actually hit the issue right on the head there! The issue is tht they got conviced yes, but they did NOT break the law. They merely got beat by a much bigger corporate mashine that was able to do so by having the investigation performed by someone they had promised to take on the payrol, and later judge by someone else who was already on it.
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May 13, 2009 3:31:29 PM

This is a brilliant idea! LOL

I wonder if they can actually get away with this. Something tells me there will be stipulations placed for minimum payments for this case and every other case from this point forward.

Still, you have to be impressed with the idea.
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May 13, 2009 3:51:38 PM

while at the same time they have your name, adress, bank account number, ... It puts you on a suspect list for visiting tpb. The price they will lose in the DDo$ attack is well worth the cost if they have a whole list of possible suspects, which they can keep an eye on, and eventually drag to court!

Then the costs of that DDo$ attack will just be added as fine in court to the donors if the legal party finds them guilty of sharing illegal material.
So either way, it's a big nono for me...
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May 13, 2009 4:17:54 PM

I am still trying to figure out what they did that was ILLEGAL? Google and search engines are just as responsible...
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May 13, 2009 4:23:32 PM

donated
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May 13, 2009 4:26:30 PM

AntilycusI am still trying to figure out what they did that was ILLEGAL? Google and search engines are just as responsible...


They just went against corporate interests that's all. In a system made managed by the rich, the rich prevail.
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May 13, 2009 6:44:44 PM

velvetfogThe donation site is here:http://www.internetavgift.se/I hope you understand Swedish.


I don't think that plusgiro thing is payable from outside of sweden, and even a translated version (google) didn't actually help much. Guess I'll leave the paying part to the swedes.
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May 13, 2009 9:17:24 PM

I e-mailed the people at "plusgirot" and asked them for a solution for non-nordic people who want to pay the internet fee.
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Anonymous
May 14, 2009 9:21:56 AM

I wish I can help to do this as well, I'm from outside Sweden...
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May 14, 2009 11:16:14 AM

A small show of immaturity is one of the links at the site linking to http://www.youtube.com/jimkeyzer For those not knowing who Jim Keyzer is he was the investigator that was secured a job with the music industry for his involvement in the case. The Youtube account is filled with vids of young girls that most would find inappropriate.
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May 14, 2009 11:18:57 AM

I'd be surprised if that account was truely owned by the investigator.
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May 14, 2009 1:17:14 PM

It's also worth noting that, as pirate bay founders have stated, it's not stealing. It's copyright infringement. They're not stealing from anyone, it's not like they've MADE $30mil off of what they're doing. Illegal? Yes. Morally unjust? Depends on whether you support money hungry capitalists or not.
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May 14, 2009 1:19:57 PM

It's only illigal if they're actively promoting copyirght infringement, which they are not. So in a perfect world they'd have gone free.
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May 14, 2009 4:01:57 PM

I will donate to their case. Just tell me where and how. If my $5 helps they can have it, that's for sure!!!!!!!!!
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May 14, 2009 4:03:16 PM

ProDigit80while at the same time they have your name, adress, bank account number, ... It puts you on a suspect list for visiting tpb. The price they will lose in the DDo$ attack is well worth the cost if they have a whole list of possible suspects, which they can keep an eye on, and eventually drag to court!Then the costs of that DDo$ attack will just be added as fine in court to the donors if the legal party finds them guilty of sharing illegal material.So either way, it's a big nono for me...

That's like saying if you are in a gay protest, you're gay. There is no legal ground to convict someone simply through their support in an act of protest.

In the end, all I foresee happening is that the company involved in the money transfers will reverse/refuse all payments below a certain $ amount (if the transfers get to a serious enough level)
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May 14, 2009 6:23:59 PM

Pirating is illigal.... If it was not illigal then it would be named 'sharing the love'..


Pirate Bay is not making money off providing links to illigal torrents or providing a means for pirates to share their content, but pirate bay is making fame/traffic/popularity....... So they bennifit from having those torrents on their site.

Someward companties do loose money to pirating?

How you ask? it may not be directly, but indirect.

Lets say that you downloaded Windows, then installed in on someone elses pc that has no idea about piracy. Normally that person would of bought windows or office etc, but he continues to use whats on the pc as it works and they don't understand what trouble they are in.

Happens all the time.

I had a computer store for many years, and most of the customer that came in did not own a copy of windows or office, and they didn't know about it. Over 70% of my customers!!!!

The only customers that owned their own windows were the customers with new computers. As they were mainly HP/Acer/Dell computers.

Software Piracy is a big problem...


So Pirate bay doesn't tell people to pirate, but people are using their services for pirating. And pirate bay does nothing to stop it. At the end of the day, pirate bay is resposable for conect on their website, or content that their web site links too. I know its a fine line since search engines may provide results to webpages or files are in question
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May 14, 2009 8:06:54 PM

According to your analogy, my boss is at fault if someone at my company greets me with a gun tomorrow when I get to work- cause he could've seized the gun after all.
It's unreasonable to blame the owner of a given compound, or website in the pirate bay case.
Whether piracy is a big problem or not is irrelevant to this. Nobody is denying that piracy is against the law in the first place. People are just in disagreement over whether or not it is okay to use the guys from the pirate bay as scapegoats. And as for publicity - well that's as much the case on the offending site of the court room really. Nobody outside sweden's ever heard of the judge or the law firm before this case to begin with.

Something else. Are you aware that you're accusing 70% of the worlds population of piracy merely because some customers in your shop didn't know they'd been conned?
Last time I had a windows mashine without a license was back when windows 95 appeared. And it was without license, because I got a copy that wasn't intended for the public. In fact it wasn't even available in shops at the time. So I use a genuine windows, and have always done. And I'm not a particularily lawabiding person to begin with. I think your numbers are considerably inflated, and definetly close to the real world picture out there.
Off the bat, I know only one person that has a windows which isn't genuine and activated. And I know considerably more than one person.

In any event, you appear to hardly know what you're talking about. But I suppose the fact that you don't seem very good at english might be part of it. Perhaps you simply don't know any better?
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