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a b D Laptop
May 13, 2009 2:15:08 PM

Apples get viruses to, and i'm on an apple now, more people try to infect apples due to the rising popularity so apples idiotic argument will have to end soon.

BTW

I'm on a 1500 dollar apple at school and its slower than my 750 dollar pc i have at home

Hate this P O S
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May 13, 2009 2:20:53 PM

I agree to the post above and I use Macs at school for video editing and i agree that macs are way to overrated

I video edit at home on a pc that is alot cheaper,faster and in general better.

IDK, i just think apples argument is dumb

And those "geniuses" don't help much either... i took an apple laptop i use to school at the tampa international mall to get some help with this mac ( i know how to use it, i was just extremely curious about the genius bar ), he didn't know how to fix the problem and after 45 minutes redirected me to some other punk/free spirited girl who didn't know what she was doing either... so in the end i just said "hmm, let me try this" and fixed it

Thats enough of my rant.. just pointing out that the "genius bar" isn't good help, at all.
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May 13, 2009 2:22:16 PM

I do get sick of the lie Apple promotes that they are impervious to problems.
Plus they sweep their problems under the rug.

Trust me, a virus, software bug or power surge will take down any computer, PC or Mac.
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May 13, 2009 2:26:01 PM

"something that doesn’t crash all the time, doesn’t get viruses and cause a bunch of headaches in general"

Well if people would stop looking at PORN and filesharing like limewire and bear share.....and stay off myspace......

they would heve no problems.

i work at a school and believe it or not.....the three things above are the main culprits.
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May 13, 2009 2:28:27 PM

Yea, MySpace kills.

I cant count how much spyware I removed for friends in college because they couldnt tell the difference between MySpace and the phishing sites.
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May 13, 2009 2:31:06 PM

This commercial is absolute BS. Forget anything Apple vs "PC" for a second.

There is NO WAY Apple can claim Mac has no viruses, crashing, or headaches. Every operating system has viruses (whether they are prone to them or not), every operating system is bound to crash for some reason, and if the software sucks or you are not good with PCs - you will get headaches.

Worst Apple ad so far.
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May 13, 2009 2:31:30 PM

I would love to see a spoof of theses commercials showing a PC asking mac what they are hiding behind their back and Mac saying "nothing" PC then says, "Hey, isn't that the spinning beachball of death?" and mac says"what that? no we don't ever crash" as the beachball starts spinning over him and he shuts up... fade to black
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May 13, 2009 2:32:09 PM

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The other two ads play on the fact that Apple stores have Geniuses as well as the fact that PC’s get more viruses.


For very loose definitions of "genius", but don't let that pesky English language stop you, Apple!

Viruses on the house mac: 0
Viruses on the house pc: 0

Times I have complained to my wife about how my pc has problems doing x: maybe 10
Times my wife complained to me about how her mac has problems doing x: somewhere near 10^100

The only thing these (and all the rest of the commercials) have going for them is the talent of John Hodgman. Anyone can put on some jeans and say "well gosh isn't the sky blue" but that guy can even make Apple propaganda entertaining. Thank you, John!
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May 13, 2009 2:33:00 PM

These Ad's both Microsofts and Apples are really lowering the intelligence bar of the whole computing industry in general.

Playing the bulls$##!t to the lowest denominator, does anyone else find this frustrating??
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May 13, 2009 2:35:10 PM

So then what will Apples defence be once Mac hackers find their way around more things? No system is completely safe which is something that everyone overlooks. Your system makes no difference. The fact that PCs hold higher representation in the market is the only reason why they get ragged on. More PCs = more PC users = more PC hackers. Once Apple gets their own version of Conficker down the road, we'll see how well they sell.
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May 13, 2009 2:35:25 PM

Apple needs a refresh ... I see the "cool-factor" dropping ... Apple can keep it up and do great business if they find a way to motivate the premium label other than it's price... The only thing apple has is a shiny "premium" sticker. They can't afford to lose that. Curious what the future brings... I love that besides the better UI the only thing the iPhone has on the 160$ no paperwork e-series nokia is COOL level. The e-series ownes the iphone :)  :D .
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May 13, 2009 2:36:19 PM

danimal_the_animal"something that doesn’t crash all the time, doesn’t get viruses and cause a bunch of headaches in general"


I would direct that person to the nearest library and give them a lantern in case the power goes out.
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May 13, 2009 2:36:51 PM

@ Apples Doomed,

You can download virus protection for Macs. The program is called virus barrier X5. I think that they should have called it iVirus.

We have Macs and PC's at work. The last time the company had a virus was 2001. It was downloaded by someone looking for porn at work.

Funny that Apple would offer software that is not needed.

They should keep marketing to the ignorant. It's worked so far.

However, by doing that they are consistently reducing the collective IQ of the average Mac user.

As usual, I am entertained.

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May 13, 2009 2:39:58 PM

Apple has 10% of the market and that's only going to go up. Most organizations now recommend and already install anti-virus on macs its a complete myth that they're invincible.
PC's aren't that great either but when they do get a problem, its much easier to fix than with a mac.
The "Apple Tax" is merely nothing more than a Genius Bar service charge...make it optional and macs become a great value.
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May 13, 2009 2:40:21 PM

Have any Mac Addicts actually used a PC in the past few years?

The Anti Virus solutions nowadays are great. Kaspersky, ESET etc.

I've been using NOD32 for a while now, and I even stopped using Ad-Aware's Adwatch.

I haven't had the slightest bit of spyware, or a virus, in quite a long time.

So if Windows 7 retail is aesthetically pleasing (which it is), has good defense against spyware and viruses (which it will, on top of any decent Antivirus solution, which EVERYONE should have), what is the appeal of a MAC again?

Oh, probably the 200% Mark up in hardware price, and the more severely limited software library.
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May 13, 2009 2:48:23 PM

I'm growing so sick of these commercials as well. They have the same problems w/ virus, but you just don't hear about it. Considering the market share Microsoft has, of course they are a target for these attacks. Macs are nice , but too over priced. No freedom to update hardware (video cards, memory, etc.. w/o buying a new machine..give me a pc anytime.
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May 13, 2009 2:50:06 PM

No viruses for mac?? WTF!! And who says that if you run pc you HAVE to run Windows? What a stupid argument from mac!!! "cause a bunch of headaches" what the hell does this means??


Mac = Liars!!!
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May 13, 2009 2:52:52 PM

We get the most problems from the two users we have at work that "require" a Mac yet run XP virtually for compatibility reasons, and regardless of how many times they call Help Desk, they continue to believe that their Mac is superior. We offer them a Windows laptop - which is essentially what they're using with Virtual XP - but it's just not cool enough. The general attitude between these two users is that they too are smarter and better than everyone else and they're impossible to work with over the phone.

Oh, and my mother-in-law's iMac ALWAYS crashes when using Safari. They finally downloaded Firefox. The other machine in their house has never once had a problem...it's an old Dell P4 with Windows XP.
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May 13, 2009 2:53:00 PM

Apple computers are overpriced that's the bottom line. And you CAN get a large monitor on a PC laptop. Windows XP runs crash free depending on when kind of software you install. The real issue is that any dumb programmer out there can make software for a PC and it's those crappy pieces of software that cause crashes... NOT the hardware or Operating system (although windows is not without flaws) BUT Apples get viruses and have problems, plus they are being targeted more since they are growing in popularity. Saying that an apple doesn't get viruses is FALSE ADVERTISEMENT!!
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May 13, 2009 2:53:09 PM

MustWarnOthersI haven't had the slightest bit of spyware, or a virus, in quite a long time.


That you are aware of...
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May 13, 2009 2:55:12 PM

I have 2 machines. One running XP Pro SP3 and the other running Vista SP1 and I do not suffer any crashes to the machines. I run registry cleaner and defrag software monthly on the machines.

Both run Norton 360 and both do not pickup viruses.

I receive no headaches from operating the machines at all. I get more headaches in working with 3rd party software rather than the OS.

Apple is reaching and failing with these worthless ads. They do nothing for the general populous as they are only created for the iTard cult. They watch these and then get together and pound each other in the iAss using their iPeen.

Drink some more kool-aid iCult members. It's made with Steve Jobs iPiss.
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May 13, 2009 2:55:38 PM

I always find it funny how people blame their inability to fix or tweak OS X on the fact that you just simply can't. Could it be, maybe, that you just don't know how? Because, I don't know, it's not an OS you are familiar with from daily use?
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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
May 13, 2009 2:57:12 PM

Huh?

What does getting viruses have to do with their hardware being more expensive? I seem to recall them advertising that one can install XP on a Mac. If I buy a Mac and install XP on it, how is my Mac, running XP, any less susceptible to viruses?

What if I simply can't afford to spend $2500 on a computer? I can't afford to buy an Apple computer. Even if I believed their reliability and stability claims it wouldn't do me any good. A computer I can't pay for has ZERO value to me.
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May 13, 2009 2:58:01 PM

who cares either way, to each his own. and let the average person buy a crap computer (from either camp) gives money to people like me who fix computers on the side
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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
May 13, 2009 3:02:31 PM

From the pool of feedbacks around here, we could savely assume that apple's ad that served them well over the years has backfired.

Dissing and throwing dirt is just not attractive advertisement. Someone at apple marketing should take note.
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May 13, 2009 3:04:07 PM

If Apples were so superior and without viruses and impenetrable, why doesn't the Department of Defense use them instead of PC's? I wonder how confident Apple would be that their machines are impenetrable if you've got a bunch of Russian and Chinese hackers trying to get through.
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May 13, 2009 3:14:22 PM

I really don't understand Apple's need for a larger market share, it's the worst thing that could happen to their company. In the event that the Mac vs PC ads cause a boom of sales, say like gaining an additional 15% of the home computer market in a single year, one of two things will happen.

One people will find out that Macs do need virus protection and be turned off by the white lie.

Two Apple ignores the fact the average user believes everything they see on the TV (and they do that's the only reason why Norton, AOL, and McAfee are still in business)and they don't install anti-virus because it's a MAC its "immune". And as sure as the sky is blue hackers all over the world will be writing code nonstop to take advantage of the situation. Thus killing Apple's reputation for virus/maintenance free computing (which is their only strong point) and again be looking at holding the bottom 10% of computer sales.

Then there is the ridiculous cost for Mac repair. If, after the warranty, your Mac breaks say dropped, lighting damage, spills and the like getting your Mac fixed is like buying a new Mac. I work at a break fix shop and every Mac that comes in for repair looks at least $600. Example one customer brought in a laptop with a dead screen (closed the lid too hard according to her an avid Mac user) cost of the monitor $550 usd with my labor another $60 to $120. That's for a 4 year old Mac. Older G4 Desktop replacement motherboard (authorized Mac store) $600.

I have to stop I'm just ranting now but Mac isn't worth the price for the product.
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May 13, 2009 3:22:11 PM

I work retail computer sales and believe me these are all bs. Yesterday I had a customer come in.... WITH A VIRUS ON HER MAC!!! =O!!!! And twice last week 2 people came in with corrupt OS's on their MAC!!!! And people tell me all the time they can't figure out where their stuff is on their mac or why their stuff won't work on a MAC or why they have to buy so many adapters for a MAC.
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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
May 13, 2009 3:24:53 PM

Ubuntu is far better than both.
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May 13, 2009 3:27:29 PM

ok so Apple marketing is very smart either... I can no longer insult Microsofts, because in relation they aren't much worst than apples.

It wouldn't have been tought for the first commercial. Rather than saying crashes/viruses/whatever, they could have said "can edit movies well in", and then "Has a contrast ratio that isn't shit" and then, ONLY once they narrows the PCs down to like one or 2, so they mention "I need an OS that won't give me a headache to configure and use for ANYTHING I need" then the two PCs could leave.

Just like the Microsoft commercials, the apple commercials could have been done way better. I think this generation of marketing people have gotten lazy =P. All these commercials and the laptop hunter commercials have done are fuel more rage and hate between apple and PC users =P... because it has made them questions each others commercials. I can stand aside and laugh at how terrible both them are being a user of practically every OS.
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May 13, 2009 3:31:51 PM

People say they tire of all the "Apple lies"...what about the MS lies?

Slow running Apples at school? Rarely will any computer in an educational setting run as fast as a home computer. They are old, configured with low costs in mind, and bloated with various security apps. I run both PC and old eMac's at school...the 5 year old eMac's run circles around the new Dells. But, neither will run near as fast as my Vista Ultimate box or my Mac's at home.

I have never liked the Apple ads, but consumers surveys show that they are rated highly by the viewers. Also, Consumer Reports latest computer survey put Apple on top in almost all computer designations. Apple has run a consistent ad campaign, whereas MS is all over the board and seems to be grasping out of desperation...first there was Seinfeld, (insert ad),...and now we get the MS goes shopping consumer attack ads. Attack ads from any source are belittling to all, and we can thank our politicians for that.
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May 13, 2009 3:32:46 PM

I'm now immune to pc & mac ads. There have been enough slander ads that I don't even care anymore.

My response to this newest ad? BFD.
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May 13, 2009 3:48:49 PM

The lab at my college had nothing but Macs and these things would have problems that I can best describe as a "seizure", where the entire thing would freeze up and the screen would...I guess tremble is the correct word. It required a hard restart.

Also, this message was quite frequent: "An unexpected error caused Safari to quit."
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May 13, 2009 3:51:32 PM

There is only one way to settle this....Thunderdome!!!

Two men enters...One man leaves.

Get Bill Gates and Steve Jobs in the freaking cage and let's be done with this. Instead of weapons like chainsaws and spears they can have PC and Mac parts hanging around.

I would kill to see Steve swinging an iPod around his head like a savage and Bill standing there wearing a suit of armor built from MS keyboards.




On a seperate note....am I the only one that thinks Bill is starting to look like Stephen Hawking? Slap him in a wheelchair and break his neck over and I would think it was Stephen's brother.
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May 13, 2009 3:57:38 PM

holy crap. would you mac haters please change the record! i laugh my ass off every time these commercials are aired because they are done well and are hysterical. the Micro$oft commercials are a weak attempt at a "rebuttal" and seem desperate. but then again creativity isn't their strong suit... let it go, pc freaks. it's okay that you cant afford one, just dont be a hater.
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May 13, 2009 3:58:13 PM

I couldn't stop my GF from buying a Macbook. I've had no problems in the last 4 years. No viruses, re-images, nothing. The Mac's been imaged 5 times due to problems, and has a dead top case. I'll fix it myself eventually, because Apple wants like 700 dollars to replace the part. Its worth 40 bucks, and takes 10 minutes to replace....

My favorite Mac crash, was when she tried to use the Apple encryption software, and it wouldn't let her into her user account. Apple's solution was to log into an Administrator, and make some changes.... but, the solution was a joke, and we had to image it. Why its my favorite, was her baffled "But doesn't this sort of thing work on your Dell just fine?"

The GF still prefers Macs because she likes OSX, and just uses the laptop to browse myspace and Hulu. But, by now she's shut the hell up on the Mac promoting, and uses my Desktop PC for anything that requires much more than a web browser.
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May 13, 2009 4:05:35 PM

Macs are certainly not what they are hyped/claimed to be, but these commercials are still really funny.
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May 13, 2009 4:17:02 PM

tonkatuffmofoThese Ad's both Microsofts and Apples are really lowering the intelligence bar of the whole computing industry in general.Playing the bulls$##!t to the lowest denominator, does anyone else find this frustrating??

Very.. just goes to show the age of Misinformation.
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May 13, 2009 4:17:28 PM

I use an Apple at home, Vista and XP at work. I have no viruses anywhere. It's all about user education. If there was more awareness about viruses, trojans, malware, spyware etc this issue would be a lot easier to deal with.
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May 13, 2009 4:21:55 PM

These commercials are just plain silly and doesn't offer any incentive one way or the other. Next commercials in line from Apple:

"Microsoft is just a big fat doodle head!"

Microsofts's reply:

"Takes one to know one!"
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May 13, 2009 4:24:08 PM

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Then there is the ridiculous cost for Mac repair. If, after the warranty, your Mac breaks say dropped, lighting damage, spills and the like getting your Mac fixed is like buying a new Mac. I work at a break fix shop and every Mac that comes in for repair looks at least $600. Example one customer brought in a laptop with a dead screen (closed the lid too hard according to her an avid Mac user) cost of the monitor $550 usd with my labor another $60 to $120. That's for a 4 year old Mac. Older G4 Desktop replacement motherboard (authorized Mac store) $600.

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Totally agree...my gf's video ipod's headphone jack died last year, and we took it to the apple store to find out how much it would be to have it fixed, they told us since it was out of warrenty it would cost *drum roll* 150 bucks. So we went on ebay and bought a new one with the "tools" (aka little plastic screw driver) for 25 bucks....took about 10 minutes to replace.

also as for the whole apple has consitant ads while ms has them all over the place...true, but only because they can think of new ideas. The apple ads are getting over used. Also as someone else said they are only focusing on the pc, but all the things siad to the pc could be throw back at the mac the exact same way. Last item, as long as you take care of your pc (hell you can even look up porn...) your computer will be PERFECTLY fine.
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May 13, 2009 4:24:56 PM

Ok, this is totally off topic, but I really don't like how the "Alert me if new talkback" is checked by default...I think we should check that if we want to get the annoying e-mails everytime someone else posts...
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May 13, 2009 4:32:05 PM

I have extensively used both and developed for both and supported both. For those of you who are PC happy, most of you probably havent used an APPLE ever, or in a long time. At home, I hardly EVER use my Windows machine. I have no need for it. I've had my mac for 5-7 years and guess how many times its locked up on me or needed a reboot because something was working right...3 times.... I keep it on 24/7, run multiple applications on it AND ITS ON the old as G4 processor (thanks apple for updating that 2 montsh after i purchased mine it). SO if you are on here bitchin about the APPLE ads or how great Linux or MS is, you are are simple jaded and uninformed. The reason you probably hate APPLE is because they are different (and might freakin expensive). I can tell ya, I would never purchase another mac again, as APPLE modo is to make your expensive purchase OUTDATED within a few months after purchasing it.
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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
May 13, 2009 4:48:37 PM

I know everyone is upset at the commercials, but Apples market share has been going up while keeping their price premium, so the overall marketing is working.

Yes Macs can get viruses. But if you read all the articles where Tom's talks to the security experts, see what machines they run. They are all on Macs for the most part. But like others have mentioned, if the Apple share keeps growing, eventually it will be financially sound to start focusing efforts on Apple.
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May 13, 2009 4:50:24 PM

treyking11holy crap. would you mac haters please change the record! i laugh my ass off every time these commercials are aired because they are done well and are hysterical. the Micro$oft commercials are a weak attempt at a "rebuttal" and seem desperate. but then again creativity isn't their strong suit... let it go, pc freaks. it's okay that you cant afford one, just dont be a hater.


I just dropped $1300 on a PC that kicks my friends new $2500 MacPro's ass. He's got those kickin Nvidia GT120's in SLI baby! I make plenty of money to buy that MacPro in cash right now if I want, but I prefer to spend my money wisely and not stupidly.
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Anonymous
a b D Laptop
May 13, 2009 4:56:44 PM

Maybe I'm missing something, but Im very sure that All the leading benchmarks for performance are held by Intel for the I7 series, which is a PC, the only thing MAC has is a different OS, and that is what a virus attacks anyway, When MAC starts selling their processors and motherboard manufacturers start manufacturing motherboards that are compatible to build your own MAC system at home and It be competitive for gaming, then I will say MAC is a good choice.....As of now You have to take all or nothing but seperate the components and the OS and well see how they hold up against "7" and INTEL and AMD's processors.
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May 13, 2009 4:58:46 PM

AntilycusI have extensively used both and developed for both and supported both. For those of you who are PC happy, most of you probably havent used an APPLE ever, or in a long time. At home, I hardly EVER use my Windows machine. I have no need for it. I've had my mac for 5-7 years and guess how many times its locked up on me or needed a reboot because something was working right...3 times.... I keep it on 24/7, run multiple applications on it AND ITS ON the old as G4 processor (thanks apple for updating that 2 montsh after i purchased mine it). SO if you are on here bitchin about the APPLE ads or how great Linux or MS is, you are are simple jaded and uninformed. The reason you probably hate APPLE is because they are different (and might freakin expensive). I can tell ya, I would never purchase another mac again, as APPLE modo is to make your expensive purchase OUTDATED within a few months after purchasing it.


I'm confused, so you are for or against Apple?

Additionally, nobody here is complaining about Apple's usefulness or how well written their OS is. We all agree that it's a solidly built machine with some well thought out code behind the OS. The issue is that no matter how solid the construction and code writing is, it's not worth the $1000 premium you pay over a PC. I dont care if my PC needs to reboot every few days, I dont care if it freezes up every once in a while. What I do care about is if I want to upgrade the RAM I don't have to pay $200 for 1 GB.

It has never been about quality, it has always been about price. As an analogy imagine for a moment you buy a Ford Fusion fully pimped out for 30k or you can buy a pimped out BMW 3 Series for 36k, that difference, while arguable, is only a 20% markup for a perceivable quality difference. Mac's however carry often times nearly a 100% markup over their PC counter parts... and for what, a different OS?
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May 13, 2009 5:16:45 PM

I'm amazed at how illiterate these comments are.
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May 13, 2009 5:21:56 PM

apple ads are a bit misleading, they basically say that macs don't crash or suffer from virus programs. see elimination ad. but they do, all software crashes, are software is prone to viruses. just google and you'll see the mac crashes, that the mac can be infected by viruses. they play off ignorance and bias and go after newbies and novices.
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