Ati are overated bits of CRAP

1. Why would anyone upgrade to a 9600 PRO from a Ti4200? The performance is too close to justify. That is a pure bonehead upgrade.
It's not the 9600 PRO's fault that you upgraded from a card that's almost as good in DX7/8 games. It's yours.

2. You're going to have to wait for true DX9 titles to see more of a difference, but it will be there.

3. Use the card's strengths. Try using antialiassing and AA to see a difference. You'll notice, really.

4. Hefty price tag? That's retarded. You can score a 9600 PRO for $125. For a card that beats the old king-of-the-hill Ti4600 that used to sell for $500, how in god's name do you define that as hefty?

Sweet Jesus, what's the matter with these amateurs? If you're going to make up a stupid story, make it believable at least.

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Radeon 9500 (hardmodded to PRO, o/c to 322/322)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+ (o/c to 2600+ with 143 fsb)
3dMark03: 4055

I enjoy the venting, actually.

Besides, rramjet's mom asked me to. She was sniffing the ground for used cigarettes outside of my work this morning, so I said hi.

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Radeon 9500 (hardmodded to PRO, o/c to 322/322)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+ (o/c to 2600+ with 143 fsb)
3dMark03: 4055

Lol

Return of the nV TROLL, RumpJet! The Mentally Defective step-brother of Dawn and Dusk.

Dude, when running games on that 10" Monochrome monitor of yours what did you expect?

Interesting how the story changes, but the swan song remains the same...

So now it's no longer your 'MATE' like <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=377320#377320" target="_new">your last BS post</A>.

Hmmm Also Seems the card you're upgrading from keeps Changing. <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=374952#374952" target="_new">A Previous TROLL Post said it was a GF2MX you had</A>. Try and keep the Lies consistent at least.


I also heard that upgrading from your Momma to your Sista makes little difference too!

Perhaps Cleeve could give us some insight.


RRRRRRRamjetTTTTTROLL.

Back under the bridge for ya' for another few weeks.


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LMAO! The cards offer similar performance in DX8 mode. DX9 games will run in DX8 mode on the Ti4200, so you don't get a loss in performance, but instead a loss of the new features of the game. They'll both always offer similar performance, just that you can SEE the DX9 eyecandy with the 9600 Pro.

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cleeve your momma humps dead animals and you get a heradjob off her while she does so. Ati are for fagoat asslickers like cleeve heare and all his homo pals...

If he doesn't die, he'll get help!!!

So that's where he's been for the past few weeks.

I agree.

<b>I help because you suck</b>

Right. Then we'll find him, burn him at the stake, and give whatever the hell card he has to some poor kid that needs it more than he does.

AMD 2500+, 1gb DDR333, Radeon 9800 Pro, Audigy 2. Yummy...

Do you really own the card?
I dont think that card if you do own it can be that bad. I've had the worst experience with my 9800 out of anyone here that uses ATI by far.

But my experience is based in a factual experience.
9600pro is still alot better than a 4200.

Enlighten us on your problems they can probably be fixed. But if you wanted them fixed you wouldnt have posted garbage.

The only ones 'ranting and raving' about how great the ATIs are, are our fanboys.
Besides that, no ones saying how great the ATIs are (the tech was long is ahead of its time anyway), but how poor the NVs perform. Big difference!

I for one think NV is the superior gfx chipset maker and if they wouldve been involved in the DX9 spec conferences, would dominate at usual. No one denys that. (edit- I take that back, not superior hardware, but NV makes more brute force hardware with better drivers, hence making them the superior gfx chipset maker )

I suggest using the cat 3.7s, thats what i use and you might be a little happier.

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I just tell it like it is and some can't handle it. If your experience is different, well congratu-fukulation.
<b>I’M NOT A ATI FANBOY, I’M NOT A NV FANBOY, I’M A STABILITY FANBOY</b><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kinney on 11/29/03 00:46 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

Well I'm in the minority here but I'd stick with what you have got.
I love the GF3/4 series. Those are VERY solid cards and hold up today well. Driver quality is unparalleled in my experience.

The new tomb raider is a true DX9 title to my knowledge.
Like the others said, if you run AA/AF it would be worth it. I dont use either myself.

I went from a GF3 to a radeon and I'd stick with the GF4 and pickup an NV40 when it comes out.
A radeon is your only choice though if you feel you have to upgrade right now as an FX isnt worth the money IMO.
Ive had flawless experience with NV though since 3dfx died.
Once you start having problems with your system it wont matter if one card or another is a little faster.
NV has damn solid drivers, noticably better than ATI.

But a 9600 is a nice upgrade. Certainly the only card I'd suggest if someone was intent on upgrading. So I think your looking in the right direction.
But from a 4200, I think your trading what was a phenonenal card (GF4) for what is not THAT much faster.
Go with a 9800 if you are going from a GF4.

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I just tell it like it is and some can't handle it. If your experience is different, well congratu-fukulation.
<b>I’M NOT A ATI FANBOY, I’M NOT A NV FANBOY, I’M A STABILITY FANBOY</b>

rramjet go there you will see why ati are so bad for you
<A HREF="http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/you.html" target="_new"> HERE </A>

My own beast: Athlon 2700xp+ (oc: 3200xp+ with 200fsb) , Radeon 9800pro (oc: 410/370) , 512mb ddr400. SO MUCH faster than my last computer (pIII 550......)

My momma humps dead animals?

Jesus rrammey, I know your old man is a little raggard, can't you recognize your own dad when you see him?

Game. Point. Match.

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Radeon 9500 (hardmodded to PRO, o/c to 322/322)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+ (o/c to 2600+ with 143 fsb)
3dMark03: 4055

I thought we hated trolls?....bored are we?

<b>eVGA</b> <font color=red><b>FX5700 Ultra</font color=red></b> <b>3DMark03 Score =</b> <font color=red><b>4,054</font color=red></b>

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<b>I gunna redeam myself</b>

<b>eVGA</b> <font color=red><b>FX5700 Ultra</font color=red></b> <b>3DMark03 Score =</b> <font color=red><b>4,054</font color=red></b>
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this war is never going to end.......

RIP Block Heater....HELLO P4~~~~~
120% nVidia Fanboy
FX5700Ultra, the next Ti4200? seems so

I beat your 3dmark 2003 score by exactly one point, GW.

In yer face! Woot!

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Radeon 9500 (hardmodded to PRO, o/c to 322/322)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+ (o/c to 2600+ with 143 fsb)
3dMark03: 4055