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Anonymous
January 23, 2005 5:56:16 PM

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Hello,

A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.

I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
not sure that it will get it in the end.

So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?

Any advice would be very welcome.

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Anonymous
January 23, 2005 5:56:17 PM

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Go to the following URL, download the software and build either a bootable
floppy or bootable CD. Boot the system, remove the admin password.

http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/

.... Ben Myers

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:56:16 +0100, nospam@hotmail.com (Robby) wrote:

>Hello,
>
>A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.
>
>I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
>The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
>not sure that it will get it in the end.
>
>So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?
>
>Any advice would be very welcome.
Anonymous
January 23, 2005 7:10:27 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

i am unclear as to what you are trying to accomplish. but i would guess
that you can no longer log in normally, and also can't log in as
administrator because you have lost/forgotten the password. if that is the
case then your inability to log in normally may have been caused by registry
corruption which you may be able to correct with a recovery reinstall...
but first things first. have you tried ""/blank/no password to get in as
admin? unless it was explicitly set the admin password is blank. second,
if you are just trying to recover data then the simplest way to do that is
purchase a $5 adapter for the 2.5" laptop hard drive and use it to connect
the laptop hard disk to a desktop system and copy the data off (comupsa,
ebay). once that is done you can put the hdd back into the laptop and
reload the os.

"Robby" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c5dcb6a55f86b5698974b@news.xs4all.nl...
> Hello,
>
> A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.
>
> I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
> The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
> not sure that it will get it in the end.
>
> So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?
>
> Any advice would be very welcome.
Related resources
January 23, 2005 8:35:09 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

failing that flash the bios with a dell bios disk and it will renove the
admin password as a by action as it whipes the eprom
"Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:T%PId.13706$qu2.6835@trndny08...
>i am unclear as to what you are trying to accomplish. but i would guess
> that you can no longer log in normally, and also can't log in as
> administrator because you have lost/forgotten the password. if that is
> the
> case then your inability to log in normally may have been caused by
> registry
> corruption which you may be able to correct with a recovery reinstall...
> but first things first. have you tried ""/blank/no password to get in as
> admin? unless it was explicitly set the admin password is blank. second,
> if you are just trying to recover data then the simplest way to do that is
> purchase a $5 adapter for the 2.5" laptop hard drive and use it to connect
> the laptop hard disk to a desktop system and copy the data off (comupsa,
> ebay). once that is done you can put the hdd back into the laptop and
> reload the os.
>
> "Robby" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c5dcb6a55f86b5698974b@news.xs4all.nl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.
>>
>> I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
>> The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
>> not sure that it will get it in the end.
>>
>> So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?
>>
>> Any advice would be very welcome.
>
>
>
>
Anonymous
January 23, 2005 8:52:11 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Oops! Is this the BIOS admin password or the operating system admin password?
If the latter, my earlier response was OK. If the former, I leave the solution
to others better versed in how to deal with notebook computers... Ben Myers

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:32:52 GMT, ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben
Myers) wrote:

>Go to the following URL, download the software and build either a bootable
>floppy or bootable CD. Boot the system, remove the admin password.
>
>http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
>
>... Ben Myers
>
>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:56:16 +0100, nospam@hotmail.com (Robby) wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.
>>
>>I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
>>The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
>>not sure that it will get it in the end.
>>
>>So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?
>>
>>Any advice would be very welcome.
>
Anonymous
January 23, 2005 8:52:12 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Good question - if it's the BIOS password, call Dell, prove ownership,
and they will assist you.


Ben Myers wrote:
> Oops! Is this the BIOS admin password or the operating system admin password?
> If the latter, my earlier response was OK. If the former, I leave the solution
> to others better versed in how to deal with notebook computers... Ben Myers
>
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:32:52 GMT, ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben
> Myers) wrote:
Anonymous
January 24, 2005 10:38:34 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

In article <41f3b4db.789354@nntp.charter.net>, ben_myers_spam_me_not @
charter.net (Ben Myers) says...
> Go to the following URL, download the software and build either a bootable
> floppy or bootable CD. Boot the system, remove the admin password.
>
> http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
>
> ... Ben Myers
>
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:56:16 +0100, nospam@hotmail.com (Robby) wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.
> >
> >I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
> >The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
> >not sure that it will get it in the end.
> >
> >So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?
> >
> >Any advice would be very welcome.
>
>
Ben,

Thanks a lot. I've made the floppy, and will try it tomorrow.

Kind regards,
Robby
Anonymous
January 24, 2005 10:44:25 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

In article <41f3e34a.12677926@nntp.charter.net>, ben_myers_spam_me_not @
Ben,

Yes, it is the OS Admin password. The bios menu can be accessed.

So I'll give it a go with the ntpassword boot disk today.

If that fails, I'll try one of the other solutions suggested.

Robby

charter.net (Ben Myers) says...
> Oops! Is this the BIOS admin password or the operating system admin password?
> If the latter, my earlier response was OK. If the former, I leave the solution
> to others better versed in how to deal with notebook computers... Ben Myers
>
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:32:52 GMT, ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben
> Myers) wrote:
>
> >Go to the following URL, download the software and build either a bootable
> >floppy or bootable CD. Boot the system, remove the admin password.
> >
> >http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
> >
> >... Ben Myers
> >
> >On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:56:16 +0100, nospam@hotmail.com (Robby) wrote:
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.
> >>
> >>I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
> >>The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
> >>not sure that it will get it in the end.
> >>
> >>So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?
> >>
> >>Any advice would be very welcome.
> >
>
>
Anonymous
January 24, 2005 3:10:06 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

"Robby" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c5eb7b017bfc4ae98974d@news.xs4all.nl...
| In article <41f3e34a.12677926@nntp.charter.net>, ben_myers_spam_me_not @
| Ben,
|
| Yes, it is the OS Admin password. The bios menu can be accessed.
|
| So I'll give it a go with the ntpassword boot disk today.
|
| If that fails, I'll try one of the other solutions suggested.
|
| Robby
|



Unless your friend has taken specific steps to password protect the "built
in" XP administrator account" (few do) it should be as simple as starting
the computer in Safe Mode logging into the built in administrator account
with a blank password and changing the password of the users account.

How to log on to Windows XP if you forget your password or your password
expires;

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;321305


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I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
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Anonymous
January 24, 2005 4:56:12 PM

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nospam@hotmail.com (Robby) writes:

>A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.

>I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
>The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
>not sure that it will get it in the end.

>So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?

They'll tell you to reinstall Windows, wiping out your existing
system and accounts. Unless you want to enter into a (hideously
expensive) support contract -- and maybe not even then -- that
sort of support probably isn't anything Dell wants to get into.

There are several commercial products on the market that will do
what you want, such as Winternals' "ERD Commander". They're good
(I've purchased several copies for my staff) but they're expensive.

There are also a number of freeware tools running around the net
which can either forcibly change the password on a local account,
or attempt to crack it. For an individual consumer machine the
better freeware products are probably a good choice, but with the
caveat that they *are* free, and have no assurance of support
if something goes wrong.

One force-change tool that I've tested that seems to work is the
Trinity Rescue Kit; google for that phrase and you should find
the links you need.

Note that the fact that these force-change tools exist is a good
example of why physical security of a computer system is a requirement
if you really do want to protect the data they hold.

Joe Morris
Anonymous
January 24, 2005 7:48:49 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

I have used Pettar Nordahl's password cracker countless times without incident.
Without support either, to your point. But little or no support is needed
unless one cannot decipher the command oriented instructions... Ben Myers

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:56:12 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris <jcmorris@mitre.org> wrote:

>nospam@hotmail.com (Robby) writes:
>
>>A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.
>
>>I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
>>The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
>>not sure that it will get it in the end.
>
>>So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?
>
>They'll tell you to reinstall Windows, wiping out your existing
>system and accounts. Unless you want to enter into a (hideously
>expensive) support contract -- and maybe not even then -- that
>sort of support probably isn't anything Dell wants to get into.
>
>There are several commercial products on the market that will do
>what you want, such as Winternals' "ERD Commander". They're good
>(I've purchased several copies for my staff) but they're expensive.
>
>There are also a number of freeware tools running around the net
>which can either forcibly change the password on a local account,
>or attempt to crack it. For an individual consumer machine the
>better freeware products are probably a good choice, but with the
>caveat that they *are* free, and have no assurance of support
>if something goes wrong.
>
>One force-change tool that I've tested that seems to work is the
>Trinity Rescue Kit; google for that phrase and you should find
>the links you need.
>
>Note that the fact that these force-change tools exist is a good
>example of why physical security of a computer system is a requirement
>if you really do want to protect the data they hold.
>
>Joe Morris
Anonymous
January 25, 2005 1:16:08 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

In article <41f52579.16464831@nntp.charter.net>, ben_myers_spam_me_not @
charter.net (Ben Myers) says...
> I have used Pettar Nordahl's password cracker countless times without incident.
> Without support either, to your point. But little or no support is needed
> unless one cannot decipher the command oriented instructions... Ben Myers
>
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:56:12 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris <jcmorris@mitre.org> wrote:
>
> >nospam@hotmail.com (Robby) writes:
> >
> >>A collegue of mine forgot the Admin password of the Dell laptop.
> >
> >>I'm trying to get to it, but so far, no luck.
> >>The software I'm using, still needs more than a day, and I think it's
> >>not sure that it will get it in the end.
> >
> >>So, could Dell mean something for my collegue in this case?
> >
> >They'll tell you to reinstall Windows, wiping out your existing
> >system and accounts. Unless you want to enter into a (hideously
> >expensive) support contract -- and maybe not even then -- that
> >sort of support probably isn't anything Dell wants to get into.
> >
> >There are several commercial products on the market that will do
> >what you want, such as Winternals' "ERD Commander". They're good
> >(I've purchased several copies for my staff) but they're expensive.
> >
> >There are also a number of freeware tools running around the net
> >which can either forcibly change the password on a local account,
> >or attempt to crack it. For an individual consumer machine the
> >better freeware products are probably a good choice, but with the
> >caveat that they *are* free, and have no assurance of support
> >if something goes wrong.
> >
> >One force-change tool that I've tested that seems to work is the
> >Trinity Rescue Kit; google for that phrase and you should find
> >the links you need.
> >
> >Note that the fact that these force-change tools exist is a good
> >example of why physical security of a computer system is a requirement
> >if you really do want to protect the data they hold.
> >
> >Joe Morris
>
>
Ben,

The Nordahl boot disk worked..!
LC5 failed, BTW...
;-)

Thanks a lot,

Robby
!